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trumad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-15-07 09:14 AM Original message |
Is it radical to hope that we don't succeed in Iraq? |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-15-07 09:16 AM Response to Original message |
1. It's radical to think there is any defination of 'succeed in Iraq' (eom) |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-15-07 09:24 AM Response to Reply #1 |
6. 'Radical' would be a polite way of saying it. |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-15-07 09:27 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. LOL Tryin to learn a little diplomancy in my old age |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-15-07 09:16 AM Response to Original message |
2. the bush* cabal |
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Sammy Pepys (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-15-07 09:19 AM Response to Original message |
3. Hoping we don't succeed in Iraq... |
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majorjohn (310 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-15-07 09:22 AM Response to Original message |
4. If pulling out means we lost the war |
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tk2kewl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-15-07 09:23 AM Response to Original message |
5. If we could succeed at stabilizing the country and fostering a democratic government |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-15-07 09:30 AM Response to Reply #5 |
11. I think you get to the heart of the question. What does it mean |
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trumad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-15-07 09:34 AM Response to Reply #11 |
15. embolden the US to remove foreign leaders in the future |
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trumad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-15-07 09:32 AM Response to Reply #5 |
12. But here's the thing |
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tk2kewl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-15-07 09:34 AM Response to Reply #12 |
16. Well, I don't think we ever belonged there. |
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trumad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-15-07 09:35 AM Response to Reply #16 |
17. I'm not rooting |
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tk2kewl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-15-07 09:37 AM Response to Reply #17 |
21. We'll probably elect some asshole who will try it again some day any way. |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-15-07 09:51 AM Response to Reply #5 |
28. It's a Catch-22 - a call for a perpetual military occupation. |
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Hamlette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-15-07 09:27 AM Response to Original message |
7. it is rational to be torn for the reasons you suggest: |
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genie_weenie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-15-07 09:30 AM Response to Original message |
9. "Suceed in Iraq", "embolden our enemies", "supporting the troops |
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bryant69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-15-07 09:30 AM Response to Original message |
10. People who kill American troops are our enemy |
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trumad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-15-07 09:33 AM Response to Reply #10 |
14. But again--- if we succeed---we stay. |
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bryant69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-15-07 09:36 AM Response to Reply #14 |
18. I guess maybe we have different definitions of success? |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-15-07 09:52 AM Response to Reply #14 |
30. Exactly. We stay until we "succeed" and stay. |
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trumad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-15-07 04:39 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. I'm just saying that I'm glad the Neos weren't proven right... |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-15-07 04:46 PM Response to Reply #10 |
34. Says somebody from the South... |
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irislake (967 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-15-07 09:32 AM Response to Original message |
13. I for one |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-15-07 09:37 AM Response to Original message |
19. Succeed or not succeed at what? |
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Straight Shooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-15-07 09:37 AM Response to Original message |
20. We are run by a group of people who believe the ends justify the means. |
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trumad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-15-07 09:41 AM Response to Reply #20 |
23. I think your first scenario is the reason we went to war |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-15-07 09:41 AM Response to Original message |
22. Interesting thread. |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-15-07 09:42 AM Response to Original message |
24. If succeeding means that wars of choice are looked at as a worthy |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-15-07 06:12 PM Response to Reply #24 |
37. Sometimes they are. |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-15-07 09:44 AM Response to Original message |
25. so if you are not hoping for "success" (whatever that means) what are you hoping for? |
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trumad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-15-07 09:45 AM Response to Reply #25 |
26. An Iraq with no US Soldiers |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-15-07 09:52 AM Response to Reply #26 |
29. that would be nice, but are you saying you don't care about the iraqis? |
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lectrobyte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-15-07 09:48 AM Response to Original message |
27. If by succeed, you mean take control of the oil and leave the |
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mahina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-15-07 04:44 PM Response to Original message |
32. Pray we succeed, for the men and women who serve. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-15-07 04:45 PM Response to Original message |
33. It's too late. Iraq is lost. n/t |
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mahina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-15-07 05:50 PM Response to Original message |
35. Pray God really does have a word with the blivet. |
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blues90 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-15-07 05:58 PM Response to Original message |
36. The bush kabal and the neocons are our enemy |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-15-07 06:14 PM Response to Original message |
38. I think that for most definitions of "success" that's a deeply misguided position. |
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