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Ninja Jordan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-15-07 07:26 PM
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Olbermann brings up a good point: Rove wants a hatchetman as US Atty in LR (to investigate Hillary)
Edited on Thu Mar-15-07 08:18 PM by Ninja Jordan
Rove wants a political operative as the US Attorney in Little Rock, so the White House/GOP can essentially have a mini-Ken Starr investigating her throughout the election.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-15-07 07:29 PM
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1. Good grief. Of course he does.
Dirty little man.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-15-07 07:30 PM
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2. It would have been a win-win-win if they had gotten away with it.
That's just one of the "wins".
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Ninja Jordan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-15-07 07:31 PM
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3. I don't think Griffin survives now.
We'll see.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-15-07 07:34 PM
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4. Or equally as likely, General Wes Clark who LIVES IN ARKANSAS.
That's more likely.
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Ninja Jordan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-15-07 07:35 PM
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6. Maybe, although he isn't a candidate.
I think they want Whitewater 2.0. Hillary was involved with it.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-15-07 07:34 PM
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5. Worked before.
Edited on Thu Mar-15-07 07:35 PM by cassiepriam
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Ninja Jordan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-15-07 07:39 PM
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8. Sure did.
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TheBaldyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-15-07 07:46 PM
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9. Bush lost both elections , he stole them both.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 06:32 AM
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18. That is my point. Rove's strategies are very successful.
Evil, but they work.
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TheBaldyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 08:19 AM
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19. I look on it this way, GOP slurs and slanders yet they still have to steal elections
so I'd disagree with you to that extent. Even with spineless dems that shut-up and avoided the real issues most Americans still voted for them.

If the candidates actually remembered they had a spine and started to speak about issues that mattered to ordinary people they'd be heading for a landslide.

Bushco can only steal so many votes.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 10:01 AM
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20. It is interesting that they have to steal elections. They are admitting they
cannot win on their own merits.

But bottom line is that they have successfully established a
dictatorship in the United States of America. No small feat.
What ever we think about them, we have to admit the strategies
have been brilliant. Diabolical and evil, but brilliant.
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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-15-07 07:36 PM
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7. This has been his MO since at least the stump was running for governor
in Texas. He had a contact in the fbi who dug up/manufactured dirt and evidence on his political opponents. This information was then "made available" to the press and used to ruin their careers. Why? Because his opponents saw him for what he is and opposed his political aspirations.

The man is a thug. A common criminal. That he is so close to the seat of power in this country is a sin and crime.

That so many people are just now seeing what a piece of shit he is astounding.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-15-07 07:51 PM
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10. Gee, I haven't thought of that one
That's a good hypothesis. That Griffin has experience in opposition research lends some weight to the idea.
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Ninja Jordan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-15-07 07:54 PM
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11. Why else propose a change? Bud Cummins is a republican, and had adequate performance ratings
Rove wanted a hatchetman to start Whitewater 2.0
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-15-07 08:02 PM
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12. I'll be interested to see if any evidence or testimony supports your idea
Let's watch for it.

I'm a very tough judge on this kind of thing, so consider yourself complimented. Your theory seems to have some basis in fact.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-15-07 08:03 PM
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13. umm.. good point Keith.
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-15-07 08:05 PM
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14. Haven't the Clinton's been investigated to death?
What more can they find out?
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Ninja Jordan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-15-07 08:24 PM
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15. Apparently not
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-15-07 08:28 PM
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16. What they can't find out, they may be more than willing to
manufacture. Even if they are proven wrong at a later date, they will have planted a seed of doubt in the minds of some people. Not to mention, there are those who would be willing to believe anything negative about Hillary.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-15-07 09:07 PM
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17. Whitewater. The claim against the Clintons was cleared by the
Edited on Thu Mar-15-07 09:13 PM by higher class
government before Starr entered the picture. Now Rove wants to use it again?

From an article by Sidney Blumenthal -

"A forensic accountant scratched through the confused records and issued a report showing no wrongdoing by the Clintons, while they lost about $65,000." However, a Republican activist, L. Jean Lewis, who worked as an investigator at the Resolution Trust Corporation, the federal agency dealing with failed savings and loans associations, read the article and became the prime mover in turning its allegations into a criminal referral. Then, many months later, during the presidential campaign in October 1992, Bush White House legal counsel C. Boyden Gray asked the chief executive of the RTC to look into this referral. The US Attorney in Arkansas, Charles Banks (a Republican appointee), looked into it, and on October 7, 1992, the following telex, which I cite in The Clinton Wars, was sent to Washington: "It is the opinion of Little Rock FBI and the United States Attorney...that there is indeed insufficient evidence to suggest the Clintons had knowledge of the check-kiting activity conducted by McDougal.... It was also the opinion of the alleged involvement of the Clintons in wrong-doing was implausible...." When Attorney General William Barr nonetheless tried to revive Lewis's referral, Banks rebuked his boss: "I must opine that after such a lapse of time the insistence of urgency in this case appears to suggest an intentional or unintentional attempt to intervene into the political process of the upcoming presidential election." Then, prophetically, he added: "You and I know in investigations of this type, the first steps, such as issuance of grand jury subpoenas for records, will lead to media and public inquiries matters that are subject to absolute privacy. Even media questions about such an investigation in today's modern political climate all too often publicly purport to 'legitimize what can't be proven.'" He suggested that participating in such an investigation "amounts to prosecutorial misconduct and violates the most basic fundamental rule of Department of Justice policy." In another telex the Little Rock FBI office added that there was "absolutely no factual basis to suggest criminal activity on the part of any of the individuals listed as witnesses in the referral"—that is, the Clintons. Although the Los Angeles Times reported these memos and telexes on August 9, 1995, the Nexis database reveals no mention in The New York Times."

The article was mostly about specific individuals with the New York Times and the Times. Plenty about it can be found in a book by Gene Lyons and the book The Hunting of the PResident by Gene Lyons and Joe Conason.

The above paragraph is the easiest to read in the article and the most important to what we're talking about. The other is all about the manuevers of the NYT writers and the Times.

Repeat - they were cleared before Starr was appointed, but the Republicans went after them again and the press refused to reveal the true story - except for jounalists like Lyons and Conason - books and in many, many columns. Joe in the New York Observer and Gene in the Arkansas Gazette.

Lyons book: Fools for Scandal: How the Media Invented Whitewater. Excellent writer.

To repeat, now Karl wants to do it all over again. Their moves make much sense - Rovian sense. Worthless and senseless is more like it. But, stir the pot, Karl - go ahead and make a fool of yourself - again. George's followers will eat it up. Gotta hold your 30% voting base together. Right?

Edited to add the URL for the Blmenthal article:
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/16431
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