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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 09:39 AM Original message |
Why not split the Republic in two? |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 09:40 AM Response to Original message |
1. First thought: They'd get nukes. |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 09:44 AM Response to Reply #1 |
6. Nuclear Parity would be a precondition for separation. |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 09:47 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. and a nation that feels that "praying for the economy to get better" would work |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 09:53 AM Response to Reply #8 |
18. What makes you think it will be different this time? |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:06 AM Response to Reply #18 |
34. We need to cut off some of the misinformation sources. The crux of the problem is there. |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 01:09 PM Response to Reply #34 |
105. Web access. nt |
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trhyne (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:32 AM Response to Reply #18 |
52. Yes, but... |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 11:04 AM Response to Reply #52 |
66. As I said, we've done it before. The fact that we are in this mess today |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 09:49 AM Response to Reply #6 |
11. But your solution to the problem relies on the 'other side' |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 09:53 AM Original message |
I have the same position with respect to Iran and North Korea. |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:28 AM Response to Original message |
48. Your post works better as a joke |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 09:52 AM Response to Reply #6 |
16. Yeah but those morans would still use them on us |
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pipi_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:35 AM Response to Reply #6 |
54. No nuclear parity.... |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 09:40 AM Response to Original message |
2. We fucked up big-time |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 09:47 AM Response to Reply #2 |
9. However there was a Great Moral Issue at stake there. |
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glowing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 09:42 AM Response to Original message |
3. Is that the America we should have? Or is it our jobs as enlightened fools |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 09:44 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. DAMN RIGHT! |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 09:48 AM Response to Reply #4 |
10. I don't share your optimism. |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 09:56 AM Response to Reply #10 |
21. I wish I could share it. |
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theblasmo (221 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 09:56 AM Response to Reply #10 |
23. When Do We Fight? |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:43 AM Original message |
As long as they have extremist religions telling them how nasty we are, NO, WE CAN'T WIN THEM BACK. |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
89. There are ways to peacefully deal with this situation. |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 01:27 PM Response to Reply #89 |
118. Let me know when you see *ANY* progress being made on either of those fronts. |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 01:35 PM Response to Reply #118 |
122. And your solution is...? |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 02:22 PM Response to Reply #122 |
144. Frankly, I thought I made that clear: let the country fission into America and Dumbfuckistan. (NT) |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 02:23 PM Response to Reply #144 |
146. That is not an option. |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 03:08 PM Response to Reply #144 |
148. Have you been following the news about the stupid "Real America" remarks by Republicans? |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 06:11 PM Response to Reply #148 |
160. If we "lost" those parts of the country that reliably vote for "small gummint" Republicans... |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 08:20 PM Response to Reply #160 |
168. So you're happy to declare yourself the real America, |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 06:26 AM Response to Reply #168 |
174. Wow, that twist is worthy of Limpballs. n/t |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 07:41 AM Response to Reply #174 |
185. See reply #175. Not a twist at all, it seems (nt) |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 06:33 AM Response to Reply #168 |
175. If, by "real America", you mean that part of America that still upholds the our Constitution... |
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pipi_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:40 AM Response to Reply #3 |
57. Some of our fellow man just don't want to be led anywhere |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 01:29 PM Response to Reply #57 |
119. Very aptly put. |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-24-08 10:35 PM Response to Reply #3 |
204. You CANNOT change these people! Their mind set HAS AND |
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geiger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 09:44 AM Response to Original message |
5. How dare you be a provocative thinker. |
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dhpgetsit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 09:45 AM Response to Original message |
7. I'm not willing to surrender any American soil to fascists. |
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Aristus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 09:52 AM Response to Reply #7 |
15. Saudi Arabia? Oh, they'd LOVE it there! The religious leaders make all the decisions! |
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trhyne (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:29 AM Response to Reply #7 |
49. And we don't? |
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dhpgetsit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 01:07 PM Response to Reply #49 |
102. I swear to god! |
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fudge stripe cookays (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 07:24 PM Original message |
We? |
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Bryn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 02:09 PM Response to Reply #7 |
142. Nor do I - Not even Florida and the Everglades |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 09:50 AM Response to Original message |
12. I don't disagree, but those "real Amerkian" places cannot survive without |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 09:57 AM Response to Reply #12 |
24. That's a start. |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:03 AM Response to Reply #12 |
30. Most of "them" live off of "us" |
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a la izquierda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 01:48 PM Response to Reply #12 |
133. My problem is this: |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 02:07 PM Response to Reply #133 |
139. I'm originally from, and still love, Colorado but I'd just have to miss it. |
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a la izquierda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 03:04 PM Response to Reply #139 |
147. The truth is... |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 09:50 AM Response to Original message |
13. Two words: "political cleansing" (nt) |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 09:55 AM Response to Reply #13 |
19. The details of the separation would have to be worked out. |
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marmar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 09:51 AM Response to Original message |
14. Just let Michigan join Canada..... |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 09:56 AM Response to Reply #14 |
22. And, make Washington Baja British Columbia. |
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marmar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 09:58 AM Response to Reply #22 |
25. "Baja British Columbia" |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 09:59 AM Response to Reply #14 |
27. Oh sure, just great for the Michiganders, but you'd leave the rest of us to their tender mercies? |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 01:16 PM Response to Reply #27 |
110. Michigan has lost a lot of population in the Reagan/Bush era |
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marmar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-24-08 07:59 AM Response to Reply #110 |
198. Lost a lot of jobs..... |
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The2ndWheel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 09:53 AM Response to Original message |
17. I'd go for more than two |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 09:55 AM Response to Reply #17 |
20. Well that is a bit extreme. |
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The2ndWheel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:11 AM Response to Reply #20 |
36. So we have Republic A and Republic B |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:15 AM Response to Reply #36 |
39. Well indeed if Republic A reached a terminal state |
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The2ndWheel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:32 AM Response to Reply #39 |
53. That's why I went a little extreme |
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 09:58 AM Response to Original message |
26. Why not just destroy (politically) Neo-Conservatism? |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 12:28 PM Response to Reply #26 |
87. Exactly correct. Neo-Conservatism should be treated like Communism during |
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Heidi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 09:59 AM Response to Original message |
28. How about we just get our sh!t together as a nation? (nt) |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:03 AM Response to Reply #28 |
31. How do I compell the terminally stupid to do that? |
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demokatgurrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:01 AM Response to Original message |
29. Good idea but Dumbfuckistan is right in the middle |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:04 AM Response to Reply #29 |
32. An EU style arrangement. |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:05 AM Response to Original message |
33. So we just say "FUCK YOU" to all those progressives living in Red States |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:13 AM Response to Reply #33 |
37. No. That is not what I have in mind. |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:19 AM Response to Reply #37 |
42. And we know how well India & Pakistan get along, with nukes pointed at each other |
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Coyote_Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:25 AM Response to Reply #37 |
46. Sorry |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:43 AM Response to Reply #46 |
60. Perhaps and I agree that is a good argument for NO. |
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Coyote_Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 04:51 PM Response to Reply #60 |
155. Oh, Please |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 06:38 AM Response to Reply #155 |
176. So you're saying that the people where you live have so embraced |
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Coyote_Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 01:53 PM Response to Reply #176 |
190. Ummmm...... |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 03:34 PM Response to Reply #190 |
191. Well I guess you've decided that debating the issue is too risky, so |
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Coyote_Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 05:14 PM Response to Reply #191 |
195. Whatever..... |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-24-08 01:53 PM Response to Reply #195 |
199. So we've taken different paths to the same conclusion. We won't agree on |
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Coyote_Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-24-08 03:25 PM Response to Reply #199 |
200. Sail On |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 12:05 PM Response to Reply #46 |
83. Hear, hear |
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Kalyke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 01:06 PM Response to Reply #37 |
100. But I don't want to live up North. |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 01:16 PM Response to Reply #100 |
111. Unlike the Palestinians though, you get to choose. I know that there are some really great things |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 03:20 PM Response to Reply #37 |
150. 'Messy'? You really are serious, and you call that 'messy'? It was a bloodbath |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 04:41 PM Response to Reply #150 |
152. Or we have the Czech Republic and Slovakia |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 05:21 PM Response to Reply #152 |
157. The clue there was in the name - 2 names shunted together |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:08 AM Response to Original message |
35. Because some of us have hope, unlike yourself. |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:14 AM Response to Reply #35 |
38. I depend on evidence. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:15 AM Response to Reply #38 |
41. Where's the evidence that they *can't*? |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:45 AM Response to Reply #41 |
62. In the last 30 years, that side has not compromised once. When only one side compromises |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:57 AM Response to Reply #41 |
64. The evidence that they have no intention of doing so was outlined in my OP |
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Ezlivin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:15 AM Response to Original message |
40. HOW TO SPLIT THE COUNTRY |
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Irish Girl (265 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:41 AM Response to Reply #40 |
58. LOL, thanks for the smile |
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Bryn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:59 AM Response to Reply #40 |
65. Take Florida! |
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WhaTHellsgoingonhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 11:21 AM Response to Reply #40 |
71. We are headed there, anyway. |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 11:56 AM Response to Reply #71 |
79. Nah, we get the west coast and Canada, not a huge supply but sufficient, |
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Kalyke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 01:09 PM Response to Reply #40 |
104. Uh... venture capital didn't work out so well. |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 01:25 PM Response to Reply #40 |
116. Maybe you could help us re-establish our pineapple industry |
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Thothmes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 06:49 PM Response to Reply #40 |
161. Your scheme gives them |
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Coyote_Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:22 AM Response to Original message |
43. Ummmm |
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Tuesday Afternoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:23 AM Response to Original message |
44. Please refer to the map in this thread and then pray! tell us ... |
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trhyne (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:24 AM Response to Original message |
45. Welcome to the decline of American Democracy |
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Coyote_Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:31 AM Response to Reply #45 |
50. Somewhere along the way |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:41 AM Response to Reply #45 |
59. Thanks for the argument by equivocation. |
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wvbygod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:27 AM Response to Original message |
47. Why legitimize AIP? |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 01:02 PM Response to Reply #47 |
95. AIP actually appears to have a plaudible greivance. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:31 AM Response to Original message |
51. We tried that once, it didn't work out |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:39 AM Response to Reply #51 |
55. We tried to prevent it by force. |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:40 AM Response to Reply #51 |
56. Wasn't that was the result of one side forcing the other to comply? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 12:01 PM Response to Reply #56 |
81. Would you have been OK with the USA allowing the CSA to exist? |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 01:11 PM Response to Reply #81 |
106. We tolerate the existence of Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, etc., etc. so, yes. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 01:44 PM Response to Reply #106 |
130. There's a movie about what might have happened if the CSA had won |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
61. They would like an excuse |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:48 AM Response to Reply #61 |
63. Well my point is that they seem to be actively working at that. |
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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 11:05 AM Response to Original message |
67. I'd have to move. Hubby change jobs. Really can't right now. nt |
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Lyric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 11:10 AM Response to Original message |
68. It's pointless. We'd just have to turn around and destroy them again. |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 04:43 PM Response to Reply #68 |
153. Perhaps. But we might have a century of peace first. |
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Nye Bevan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 11:12 AM Response to Original message |
69. I'm an optimist |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 11:13 AM Response to Original message |
70. Thing is, it's not a geographic split like it was in 1861. |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 04:44 PM Response to Reply #70 |
154. I agree with that. It is complicated and needs a new model. |
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Tuesday Afternoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 11:21 AM Response to Original message |
72. .... |
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Sinti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 11:25 AM Response to Original message |
73. Don't buy the duality |
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PJPhreak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 11:35 AM Response to Reply #73 |
74. The Repukes should buy their own |
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Sinti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 11:39 AM Response to Reply #74 |
75. I could live with that |
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PJPhreak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 11:52 AM Response to Reply #75 |
77. All kidding aside... |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 01:22 PM Response to Reply #77 |
115. There's no viable land left.... |
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Bryn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 02:07 PM Response to Reply #75 |
140. and wolves & polar bears |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 12:02 PM Response to Reply #73 |
82. This argument reminds me of the desperate pleading of a guy whose girlfriend |
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EmeraldCityGrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 11:51 AM Response to Original message |
76. Red States Feed at Federal Trough, Blue States Supply the Feed |
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tjwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 01:02 PM Response to Reply #76 |
94. Say it ain't so...proud-small goverment red states sucking off the government tit? |
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Thothmes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 06:55 PM Response to Reply #76 |
162. True, but isnt it an accepted tenent of progressive politics |
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EmeraldCityGrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 07:47 PM Response to Reply #162 |
167. That's why I'm a Democrat. |
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Thothmes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 06:19 AM Response to Reply #167 |
173. That is the way a lot of us work. |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 07:18 AM Response to Reply #162 |
178. And a separate state would allow us to pursue those progressive ideas |
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NoSheep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
78. I feel it is possible Obama will prove many of them wrong. They're just |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 11:58 AM Response to Original message |
80. Because power hungry Dominionists would use the Great Commission |
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screembloodymurder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 12:07 PM Response to Original message |
84. I'm with you, but how long before they'd attack us? |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
85. No |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 12:48 PM Response to Reply #85 |
90. The cross-over vote is the result of the economic pain, not an epiphany. |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 02:22 PM Response to Reply #90 |
145. "They" |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 07:11 AM Response to Reply #145 |
177. You are right, they are not a majority, but they are a huge minority and, as long |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 01:06 PM Response to Reply #85 |
99. "a whole lot of food grown in the flyover states" |
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Book Lover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 12:26 PM Response to Original message |
86. I have a better idea |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 01:07 PM Response to Reply #86 |
103. I am not trying to divide I am acknowledging a division that is real. |
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Book Lover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 01:12 PM Response to Reply #103 |
107. I agree - division is a given |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 12:31 PM Response to Original message |
88. Because we would have to send aid to the South to keep them from |
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BDW1964 (40 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 01:03 PM Response to Reply #88 |
96. Do you honestly think |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 02:00 PM Response to Reply #96 |
136. Purple? |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
91. It wouldn't be safe to have a huge island of poverty and ignorance... |
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Thothmes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 06:57 PM Response to Reply #91 |
163. And feeding you at the same time. |
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Strawman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 01:00 PM Response to Original message |
92. No clean way to do it, but I'd consider some kind of separate governing networks |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 01:05 PM Response to Reply #92 |
98. That is my thinking as well. Two governments one territory. |
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Strawman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 01:13 PM Response to Reply #98 |
108. I'd love to see some locality try it as a pilot experiment |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 05:38 PM Response to Reply #98 |
158. OK, 3 words this time: "separate but equal" |
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Kalyke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 01:02 PM Response to Original message |
93. Because I don't want to move from the warm South. |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 01:05 PM Response to Reply #93 |
97. I'm not convinced you would have to. |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 01:37 PM Response to Reply #93 |
125. Have you ever been in SoCal? |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 01:06 PM Response to Original message |
101. Aside: I enjoy DU most when there is real dialog on interesting issues |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 01:49 PM Response to Reply #101 |
134. Indeed. This is what DU is for IMO, and why I hang here. |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 01:14 PM Response to Original message |
109. resulting in the Balkanization of the U.S. |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 01:34 PM Response to Reply #109 |
121. I'm not quite sure what is wrong with splitting up into N states. |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 01:59 PM Response to Reply #121 |
135. The absurdity of the logistics involved |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 01:18 PM Response to Original message |
112. the only nonsense that I see in the OP is the OP. |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 01:36 PM Response to Reply #112 |
123. Ok - all good questions. |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 01:44 PM Response to Reply #123 |
131. no, they really can't be "worked out" |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
113. "Why not accept that the divisions are real and irreconcilable?" |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 01:39 PM Response to Reply #113 |
127. Well we can disagree about the assumptions here |
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Lifetimedem (652 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 01:20 PM Response to Original message |
114. That was tried once remember? |
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torbird (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 01:26 PM Response to Reply #114 |
117. I wish I was in the land of cotton |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 01:37 PM Response to Reply #114 |
124. See above. |
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Kazak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
120. D.S.A.? |
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Kazak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 01:37 PM Response to Original message |
126. D.S.A.? |
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ArmedAmerican (75 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 01:41 PM Response to Original message |
128. because I don't want Karl Rove to win |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 01:42 PM Response to Original message |
129. There could be a way of doing this without splitting the nation. |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 01:48 PM Response to Reply #129 |
132. and how, pray tell, would this approach become a reality? Constitutional amendment? |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 02:03 PM Response to Reply #132 |
137. No it could never happen, anymore than having some states secede from |
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Lyric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 07:15 PM Response to Reply #137 |
165. We aren't called a federation. We are called a union. |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 11:34 PM Response to Reply #165 |
169. And the federal government comes from where? |
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Lyric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-24-08 05:24 AM Response to Reply #169 |
196. I think there was a misunderstanding, and I am sorry. |
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AtomTan (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 02:03 PM Response to Original message |
138. What's with all the South hating today? |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 03:13 PM Response to Reply #138 |
149. Too much unity on DU lately--time to stir up some shit! n/t |
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trof (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 03:49 PM Response to Reply #138 |
151. It's a cycle we go through several times a year. |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 04:55 PM Response to Reply #138 |
156. Conceptually it is Dumbfuckistan |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 07:36 AM Response to Reply #138 |
184. It's a division of philosophy, not a team sport. |
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AtomTan (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 02:09 PM Response to Original message |
141. America is a lot more than its voters |
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billyoc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 02:11 PM Response to Original message |
143. I'd rather give ALL the nuclear weapons to the Taliban |
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Adsos Letter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 06:09 PM Response to Original message |
159. This was attempted once, in the 1860's...however... |
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4 t 4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 06:59 PM Response to Original message |
164. Let's take that further, not two parties |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 07:31 AM Response to Reply #164 |
183. I think the basic problem with any enlightened form of government in the US today is that |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 07:51 AM Response to Reply #164 |
186. A Single Transferable Vote system |
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natrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 07:24 PM Response to Original message |
166. give em everything east of the rockies |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 11:40 PM Response to Original message |
170. Well I'm not leaving California, the shit-heads will have to leave... |
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DonCoquixote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 12:59 AM Response to Original message |
171. The urban parts of the South |
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Poseidan (630 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 01:15 AM Response to Original message |
172. first, because it isn't a Republic |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 07:21 AM Response to Reply #172 |
182. Pssst. Do you recall what song the Union soldiers played when marching on Georgia? |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 08:01 AM Response to Reply #172 |
188. I actually don't know where to start. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 07:19 AM Response to Original message |
179. Just two? When it happens, the US will fragment into at least a half dozen states. nt |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 07:19 AM Response to Original message |
180. I would say I'm for that except if I'm not already on the list, I might be if I say so. |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 03:37 PM Response to Reply #180 |
192. Don't worry, you were on the list with your first post. n/t |
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Toucano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 07:21 AM Response to Original message |
181. Easier solution: Increase the size of the House |
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Thothmes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-24-08 07:00 AM Response to Reply #181 |
197. Lets see |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 07:57 AM Response to Original message |
187. Wow, America, where have you gone. |
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GTurck (569 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 08:18 AM Response to Original message |
189. We separated once before... |
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DangerDave921 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 03:48 PM Response to Original message |
193. LOL |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 05:04 PM Response to Original message |
194. We have two political parties... |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-24-08 09:14 PM Response to Reply #194 |
201. Have you ever tried 'reasoning' and 'compromise' with those |
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upi402 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-24-08 10:17 PM Response to Reply #201 |
203. True |
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202. Can you imagine living in a world of democrats! In the words of |
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