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Indigo Blue Donating Member (167 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 12:49 AM
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This is a guy who never hurt anybody

A digital-vigil for John Robert McGraham


This is a guy who never hurt anybody

Houseless, mentally ill man in LA doused with gasoline and set ablaze

Daily Newswire Service
Sunday, October 19, 2008;

LOS ANGELES -- City officials and residents gathered at a memorial service Saturday for a homeless man doused with gasoline and set on fire.

John Robert McGraham, 55, died October 9 when he was set on fire near Third Street and New Hampshire Avenue.

Los Angeles Councilman Tom LaBonge told the crowd at Immanuel Presbyterian Church that McGraham was mentally ill and living on the streets, but remembered as a simple but peaceful man.

"In the case of John and all of the homeless, we must encourage all of our leaders to work on the issue of mental illness," LaBonge said. "I know that we'll always keep John in our hearts."

During the service, a projector showed pictures of McGraham's family, and shots of him as a baby and young boy. The last photo showed him with his hair uncut, fully bearded, wearing a battered coat, shirt and shoes.

Presiding pastor Rev. Frank M. Alton, officiated the services, which included a translator for a largely Latino crowd on the second floor of the church.

"We thought he was alone," said his sister, Sharon McGraham. "It is so wonderful to be loved. Thank you so much."

The Los Angeles City Council is expected to vote next week to offer a $75,000 reward for information leading to the conviction of whoever is responsible for the crime.

At a news conference Friday, police and McGraham's relatives asked for the public's help in finding two men believed to be responsible for the killing.

LAPD Deputy Chief Charlie Beck called McGraham's death "a crime that should shock every man, woman and child in the city of Los Angeles."

Witnesses say two men, in their mid- to late-20s, jumped out of a late-model tan or gold car, possibly a Honda, and poured gasoline on McGraham before setting him on fire, Beck said.

The men bought a red gas can and filled it at a station in the area, Beck said. Police have yet to find surveillance video that would help identify the killers.

The man, who once worked at the former Ambassador Hotel nearby, lived on the streets for years, where his sisters brought him food and money.

Susanne McGraham-Paisley said her brother was a peaceful person who avoided trouble.

"This is a guy who never hurt anybody," she said.

Sharon McGraham choked back tears as she described her brother as sweet and good-hearted.

"He was just so precious. He was such a sweetheart," Sharon McGraham said.

http://www.poormagazine.org/index.cfm?L1=news&story=2098&pg=1

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Universal Declaration of Human Rights

Article 25

(1) Everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of himself and of his family, including food, clothing, housing and medical care and necessary social services, and the right to security in the event of unemployment, sickness, disability, widowhood, old age or other lack of livelihood in circumstances beyond his control.

(2) Motherhood and childhood are entitled to special care and assistance. All children, whether born in or out of wedlock, shall enjoy the same social protection.

http://www.un.org/Overview/rights.html


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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 12:54 AM
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1. A very sad and tragic story. How mean do you have to be to do
this to a fellow human being? John's at peace now, but I hope they find the men who did this.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 08:38 AM
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18. Ask one of Raygun's minions, this is their doing as much as the scum with the matches. n/t
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 12:58 AM
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2. These killers should be lynched in the town square
I'm getting very wary of hearing about crimes like this committed by people who find killing homeless people to some kind of a recreational sport.
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tomreedtoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 02:52 AM
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13. Not a sport. A money making opportunity.
Do you think they went to all that trouble without videotaping it? For the DVD's they will be selling soon? They're hoping to beat "Bumfights" as the best form of entertainment you can bring into your home.
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 03:20 AM
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30. It is crimes like this
that make me question my opposition to the death penalty.
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 12:58 AM
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3. OMG! That's horrible !
What kind of sick bastards can do that ? I hope they get them and throw away the key.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 12:59 AM
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4. Most people don't understand they are a neurotransmitter
and a couple of paychecks away from living on the street.



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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 08:37 AM
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17. So true!
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 12:59 AM
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5. Indigo what a lovely post - your mother would have loved it thank you
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 01:06 AM
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6. What a damn NASTY thing to do to someone.
I hope they find those two and I hope THEY burn in hell eternally for what they did to this innocent man.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 01:08 AM
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7. I fear you could go state by state and find so many examples of man's
Edited on Thu Oct-23-08 01:08 AM by babylonsister
inhumanity to man. Very sad, but thank you.

I think Iraqi victims should also be profiled. And Vets. :(
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 01:08 AM
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8. So there are a couple of psychopathic pyro-murderers running around on the loose...
...that's comforting.

I'm hope they have a special place waiting for those 2 once they get caught.

Who preys on homeless people, I mean, seriously?:wtf:
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 01:23 AM
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9. There is no bottom to the depths of human depravity. nt
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LonelyLRLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 01:56 AM
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10. This breaks my heart. nt
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 02:12 AM
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11. Okay. It's up to US to change this country because we are the ones who get it.
Social and economic justice. That is our calling. Tag! We are it! "We are the ones we've been waiting for."

Oh, that poor man! Oh how absolutely unbelievable. My heart breaks.
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Dark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 02:15 AM
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12. WTF? Setting a guy on fire?!
n/t
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Beregond2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 05:32 AM
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14. One more death on Reagan's hands.
The massive defunding of services for the mentally ill was a Reagan project, resulting in the situation today, with thousands of people living on the streets who should be institutionalized.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 05:35 AM
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15. Horrible. No other words.
Bulk of humanity = EPIC FAIL

RIP John. :cry:
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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 08:32 AM
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16. I don't think a City dousing homeless with water while they sleep is setting
a good example to would be thugs.


There was a post on DU about that yesterday.
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 08:57 AM
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19. k&r, with a heavy heart. n/t
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:00 AM
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20. Burning to death has to be the worst thing possible, but some of the comments in this
thread are beyond fucking dumb.
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asteroid2003QQ47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 04:03 AM
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31. Elaborate please. n/t
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asteroid2003QQ47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 07:18 PM
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34. Elaborate pretty please with fucking sugar on it. n/t
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:05 AM
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21. There's a whole undercurent of meanness running through today's society
and it feels as if it's gotten worse over the past thirty years or so.
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amber_86 Donating Member (184 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 12:59 PM
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22. That is just sad
I hope they find who did this.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 01:05 PM
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23. It's called "Troll Rolling" and it became popular in the Reagan years
I do think there was a direct link between the hatred for the homeless Reagan spewed, and the sociopathic teenagers who did these heinous crimes.

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Blue Diadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 01:14 PM
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24. RIP John Robert McGraham
I hope his killers are haunted with what they did, every moment of every day for the rest of their lives.
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TK421 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 01:21 PM
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25. When these sick fuckers are caught, they need to be castrated
and that is only the beginning of it

Totally...fucking...twisted
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no limit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 02:07 PM
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26. It saddens me to share this planet with scum like that
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Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 07:06 PM
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27. Dear Lord...
Edited on Thu Oct-23-08 07:07 PM by Mad_Dem_X
What kind of sick fuck do you have to be to do that to somebody? I hope they find the guilty parties and punish them to the fullest extent of the law.

Rest in peace, John. :cry:
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 11:06 PM
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28. .
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entanglement Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 01:21 AM
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29. Fucking asshole LA city council and their crocodile tears...these bastards do everything
to demonize homeless people and then some. Swine. They might as well have bought the gasoline and the match.

/too mad to type straight
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bean fidhleir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 05:48 PM
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33. Yes. My first thought was: what could that $75K have done for him?
Kept him off the street and safe, maybe? A permanent bed in a halfway house? $75K is a nice piece of change for anyone not corpo-slime.
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offog Donating Member (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 05:22 PM
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32. Sick and twisted.
:puke: It isn't just the murder of a harmless, helpless homeless man. It's the method of murder. Burning to death is one of the most agonizing ways to die.

A lot of the problem is that in our society, it's acceptable for the strong to push around the weak and treat them like inferior lifeforms - not just the homeless, but the poor in general and other marginalized people. This also applies to corporate managers treating employees like crap, bigots treating people of color like crap, men abusing women, adults abusing kids.

I agree with the person who said that the meanness in society is getting worse. People are struggling, scared and angry. They're looking for someone to take it out on, and they go after the lower status people.
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