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DeadElephant_ORG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 10:42 AM
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A close election could open the gates of HELL
Three forces are driving a fast-approaching political fire-storm:

1) a contested election
2) a lynch-mob mentality, and
3) economic collapse

If this election is anything less than a landslide for Obama, if it is not decisive – in fact, if the outcome is contestable to any degree – those three forces could become chaos multipliers, each feeding the others in a rapidly escalating fire-storm.

Contested Election
False hysteria over ACORN is part of a broader Republican effort to invalidate, in advance, an election they now realize they are likely to lose. So this election is already being contested. The Republican strategy abruptly shifted the week following the first debate, when polls of the limited number of remaining independents moved sharply towards Obama. Their new goal is to make the upcoming election as contestable as possible, to widen the margin of victory that can be called “a tie”, and to delegitimize Obama.

Lynch-mob Mentality
McCain and Palin stoke the rage, and the calls to violence, that we’ve witnessed at Republican rallies, by their relentless focus on the non-issue of Ayers. Let’s be clear: their charge, that Obama “sees America as imperfect enough to pal around with terrorists who would bomb their own country” flatly insinuates that Obama is an enemy to the United States - not that Obama is a poor choice for President, or wrong for America, or even that he is insufficiently patriotic, but that he is bent on doing grievous harm to our country. For those who accept McCain and Palin’s insinuations, to block Obama’s assumption of power by any means - including violence - is a patriotic duty. “Country First”, remember. McCain puts his personal anger, and his disdain for Obama, on public display. The crowds he gathers follow McCain’s example.

Economic Collapse
But McCain supporters aren’t the only angry Americans right now. Not by a long shot. Anybody who has a house, or a life-savings, has recently been robbed of half their net worth. On top of that, they’ve been bilked for a Wall Street bailout. People everywhere are pissed.

Our economy is on life-support. If we don’t know who’s going to be our President by, say, three days after the election, the patient will go into cardiac arrest. No one can say how much anger would arise at such a catastrophe. But Rightwing pundits like Rush Limbaugh are already telling us who to blame: black people.

Escalating Fire-storm
Blame black people, like those sub-prime mortgage deadbeats whom Democrats supposedly forced Fannie Mae to lend to. Blame black people who vote overwhelmingly for Obama. Blame black people, like Colin Powell, who’s endorsement of Obama was “obviously racist”. Blame black people in those southern swing states where the angry conservative whites have lots of practice at whipping up lynch mobs.

In the days after the hung-2000-election, Republican mobs descended on Florida to stop any re-count. Picture those mobs in the alarming context of 2008. How could anybody re-count the vote in the middle of a race riot?

Palin’s wistful ode to “the pro-America parts of this country” made clear her belief that those who oppose conservative values and conservative power are, by definition, anti-American. Limbaugh, Hannity, Coulter, Savage, and all the other rock-stars of the Right, repeatedly make the same equation: Liberal = Traitor. So it’s not only Obama that’s an enemy. If you’re not a Republican, then YOU are an enemy. So expect the right-wing lynch mobs to treat you, and your vote, accordingly.

And of course, the Left will rise to the bait. As in 2000, and 2004, there will be loads of dirty Republican tricks on Election Day: caging, non-existent voting machines and extremely long lines for Democrats only, and electronic election theft on a massive scale. We won’t sit by while Republican mobs take control of the State Houses and County Seats where our votes are stored and counted. We’ll rise up to defend the integrity of elections, and to defend our President-elect.

In so doing, we will give George Bush the justification he needs to declare Martial Law. He has the sole authority to do so. He has recently stationed battle-hardened troops inside the US for this purpose. And - as a war criminal - he has every incentive. Indeed, if there were mass riots in multiple US cities during a contested election and an economic catastrophe, Bush would be be irresponsible if he did NOT to declare Martial Law. And, given that situation, the military, and law enforcement would back him up.

McCain’s Personal Responsibility
Losing to a handsome rookie is proving hard on the famously ill-tempered and hard-fighting old man McCain. Obama's black skin seems to make it harder still. So the recent uptick in “enthusiasm” (otherwise known as rage) at McCain rallies must be intoxicating to him. But McCain seems to have no concept of the conflagration that he is courting. He’s playing with fire, in a parched field of tall grass, on a hot day.

A firestorm, once set in motion, feeds itself. It generates its own fanning winds at hurricane force. A firestorm cannot be put out until it has consumed everything burnable within reach.

For the sake of our precious (if never-quite-perfect) freedom, let's make this election a landslide.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 10:45 AM
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1. Yep.
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norepubsin08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 10:46 AM
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2. Wow!!! Good article!!!
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DeadElephant_ORG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 01:29 PM
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15. DIGG this here:
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 02:33 PM
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18. true.
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 10:50 AM
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4. In Reality...
Edited on Thu Oct-23-08 10:51 AM by tjwash
Americans won't do shit.

The world will just shake their collective heads, liquidate everything they have left here, and dump all of it into the Euro markets.

The United States will slowly keep devolving into a gigantic third world banana republic as countries like China and India use their new found wealth to finish buying us out and show us how much the exploitation we have been dishing out around the world really sucks.

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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 02:34 PM
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19. I don't think so. No one is going to put up with bush's shit for ten
seconds longer than they need to. Barack has an ocean of lawyers poised.
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DeadElephant_ORG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 02:38 PM
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20. So Barack will dispatch his "ocean of lawyers" against a phalanx of tanks. That'll be entertaining.

sounds like the opening to yet another joke about lawyers.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 08:34 PM
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29. no, actually. the court challenges will start before anyone can get
off their butts.
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SidneyCarton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 10:05 AM
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31. As entertaining as that punchline might be...
I'm not sure that the army would back a Bush coup, particularly as it means 5-10 more deployments to Iraq.
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DeadElephant_ORG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 01:05 PM
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38. If there were riots in multiple major US cities...
I think they WOULD back Bush up. How LONG would they back Martial Law is more of a question in my mind.
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 10:18 AM
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33. Sure they will. Come on, there are still a sizable number of people that think Saddam bombed the WTC
Dude...the average American voter is as dumb as a sack full of hammers and you and I both know it. Americans are a fat, lazy complacent lot that love the status quo. If McCain somehow steals the election (which he won't...mccain is only sitting on 157 EVs right now, so it will be a landslide for Obama, most Americans will just continue to bend over and watch this place devolve into a third world cesspool.

I'm just saying that the world is watching...and you are giving the average american WAYYYYYYY too much credit.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 10:51 AM
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5. I really hope this doesn't happen
Countries around the world look to us as a beacon of democracy, where elections are peace and the transition from one president to another is not marked with tanks in the streets.

The whole world is watching this one. Let's do ourselves proud and not embarrass ourselves in the eyes of the world.
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DeadElephant_ORG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 12:43 PM
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13. agreed: "Let's do ourselves proud and not embarrass ourselves in the eyes of the world." n/t
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 10:51 AM
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6. If it is close it is because it is stolen, and I will hold the Democrats personally responsible
for doing nothing for the last 8 years to insure our voting rights, and that ALL the votes are counted, for the person each voter cast his ballot for


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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 12:46 PM
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14. I honestly don't think they could steal it at this point
The gap is too wide. The best they could hope for is stealing congressional and gubernatorial seats that are still a contest. Texas is starting to lean blue. Utah has a very purple look to it. These people are not going to win without overt, massive fraud. There is no way in hell they can claim "margin of error" or any other bullshit.

Instead they're going to lose and we're going to go back to the early Clinton years, with redneck conservative terrorists and armed anti-government yahoos running around. This is what McCain's campaign is doing at the moment, fanning those flames.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 07:12 PM
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25. I suspect you are right, but am still concerned with all the talk about
machines flipping votes, or trying to disqualify voters


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Glorfindel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 10:55 AM
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7. Scary, scary stuff...these scenarios must NOT take place
Not that Mississippi matters, or ever has, in a national election, but the ignorant rednecks I'm surrounded by are already seething with rage just at the possibility that an African-American could be president. If he should win, they'll self-destruct. (I hope!)
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my2sense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 11:16 AM
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8. This is SPOT on
All the ingredients for complete chaos in the streets are present and McCain and his minions know exactly what they are doing - it all seems to be set up - it's not a coincidence that an army brigade is stationed on U.S. soil to "help out" in case of "civil unrest". This all feels very planned.
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NOLALady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 11:32 AM
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9. God Help America.
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Bonhomme Richard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 11:37 AM
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10. If it is stolen then.................
Bring it on.
I am pissed and if it is stolen again I, for one, will not roll over.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 11:39 AM
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11. As a practicing member of the Church of the SubGenius I have to say that sounds rather entertaining
:shrug:
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DeadElephant_ORG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 03:39 PM
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21. please explain
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 05:55 PM
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22. Chaos is inherently amusing to the SubGenius
Edited on Thu Oct-23-08 05:56 PM by slackmaster
Some people enjoy watching two men from minority groups beating up on each other in a ring or a cage. I've never enjoyed that kind of fight.

I prefer to watch masses of people, impassioned by massive differences of opinion, arguing on a massive scale.

I think the election is going to be somewhat of a let-down. Obama/Biden will win clearly, so only the most strident GOPers will be whining about a "stolen" election.
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DeadElephant_ORG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 06:55 PM
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23. Tiananmen Square, the Reichstag fire, Bull Connor and his bulldogs...
Edited on Thu Oct-23-08 06:56 PM by DeadElephant_ORG
were all just

e x t r a v a g a n z a s    o f    c h a o s

eh?

And all this time I've thought that I was cynical.

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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 07:01 PM
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24. Become and Ordained Minister and find out more
It's only $30 to find out what you REALLY think.
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DeadElephant_ORG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:07 AM
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34. you mean I gotta pay 30 bucks UP FRONT just to find out how f---ing WACKED it is.
No way. I'm interested, but you gotta pony up some goods here.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 12:20 PM
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35. How does "Eternal Salvation Guaranteed or Triple Your Money Back!" grab you?
No other religion can match that.
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DeadElephant_ORG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 12:24 PM
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36. nobody nobody NOBODY beats our prices!

Now you too can afford to get religion.
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SidneyCarton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 10:06 AM
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32. Chaos is always amusing...
Until it kicks in your door, does unspeakable things to your loved ones and then burns down your house.

Just ask the Iraqis, Afghans, Congolese, Rwandans, Bosnians, etc...
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BrightKnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 11:46 AM
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12. This kind of rhetoric before the election will not help
Edited on Thu Oct-23-08 12:01 PM by BrightKnight
Obama or any other Democrats at the polls.
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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 01:55 PM
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16. Your "Concern" Is duly noted.
Edited on Thu Oct-23-08 02:07 PM by TheWatcher
You are right. Willful Ignorance of the obvious and an unhealthy obsession with feeling good and comforting thought processes, while ignoring the reality of the landscape around you is the way to go.

Everything is fine in Pleasantville. We mustn't rock the boat. We must roll over and pretend things aren't happening and deny they exist. We must only practice Rose-Colored and Magical Thinking. Everything that does not agree with our Happy Paradigms is a conspiracy. We must drool in front of the TV and believe.

If this election DOES get stolen, what will you tell everyone then? That it was a miracle and McCain actually won? That we must accept the outcome and get over it? That it didn't really happen and that everything is fine? That no matter how obvious it is that it was stolen, we mustn't spread evil conspiracies that will make us "look bad" to the other side?

This kind of "rhetoric" is the reality we are living in right now. It is frightening, and we should be frightened, because of the kind of adversary we are dealing with. We should hope for the best, and hope nothing in the OP comes to pass. We should also be AWARE and ALERT and try to prevent it from happening. And if it DOES happen, we should be prepared to Resist.

But to dismiss this post as "unhelpful rhetoric" is silly. It's a very possible reality. And denial is not going to make it fiction.



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bagimin Donating Member (945 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 02:28 PM
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17. I want my Mommmmmmmmmmy!
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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 07:16 PM
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26. There, There little Sheep.


Feel Better now?
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 07:22 PM
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27. That and the Necronomicon.
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 12:27 PM
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37. BWAAHAHAHAHAH...All hail Abdul Alhazred the mad arab!
I loved that book when I was a lad...some people read "atlas shrugged" when they were teens. I read the Golden Dawn, and anything written by Crowley. Although I was disappointed when I found out that the necrnomicon was a spoof written by HP Lovecraft, I still enjoyed reading it immensely.
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DavidMS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 07:57 PM
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28. I am not so woried about a contested election
I think Obama will win by a sufficient margin to easily win the presidency. What does scare me is the reactions of the loony right to his win.

I expect an upsurge of right-wing terrorism, separatism and anti-Americanism. Its not going to be pretty or fun. My big concern is that we won't win both the war and the peace (see also post-reconstruction south).

Unless we can win both, the beast will still be out there.
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DeadElephant_ORG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 10:32 PM
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30. No doubt. Even if it's an Obama landslide, we'll have issues to deal with.
But I just don't think a landslide is likely, given all the voter suppression and vote theft.
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