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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 01:54 PM
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"Spreading The Wealth"??? PEOPLE LIKE THE IDEA!!! ROFL!!!
Edited on Fri Oct-31-08 01:55 PM by Beetwasher
Ain't that a pisser? McCdummy's final pitch is that O wants to "spread the wealth!".

Unfortunately for McDummy, PEOPLE LIKE THAT IDEA!!!

Way to campaign for Obama you idiot! :rofl:

"The latest polling, taken amid McCain's big Joe the Plumber assault, shows that 58% favor a fairer distribution of wealth than exists now, while only 37% say the current distribution is equitable. While the poll does show that only 46% favor "heavy taxes on the rich," that's not how Obama would describe his plan, obviously."

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/10/poll_majority_agrees_with_obam.php

Worst. Campaign. Ever.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 01:56 PM
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1. Yes, Obama didn't make a gaffe.
Edited on Fri Oct-31-08 01:57 PM by Eric J in MN
He wants to spread the wealth, and the majority of Americans want that, too.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 01:57 PM
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2. I'm all for the tax brackets of the Eisenhower years ... to eradicate the debt.
Edited on Fri Oct-31-08 01:58 PM by TahitiNut
The Bushies have, as a FOREMOST objective, driving the federal government so deep into the hole that they can destroy Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid and all remaining New Deal programs. (God forbid they harness military spending or actually PAY for the spending!)

The economic meltdown is part and parcel of this scorched earth strategy, imho.
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Juche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 02:45 PM
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9. All the economic growth of the last 30 years has gone to them anyway
An Eisenhower rate of 91% may be too high, but I wouldn't cry if it went back up to 50% or so.



The wealthy and corporations have seen their incomes and profits skyrocket while their taxes have been cut in half or more. From 2001-2007 corporate profits went from maybe $500 billion to 1.4 trillion. now McCain and the GOP wants to give them another tax cut.

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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 04:56 PM
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14. And the ratio of corporate profits to employee compensation has gone from 10% to over 20%.
It's insane exploitation of labor. The wealth that labor creates is given to 'owners' at LOW tax rates and the decreasing share that labor keeps is taxed at HIGHER rates. Obscene!
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 02:56 PM
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11. Those would be good old style Republican tax brackets, right?
So Americans could pay off our war debts and all? Bill it as a return to rational and conservative money management.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 04:58 PM
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15. If the GOP can repeatedly argue that JFK 'lowered taxes' then the Dems should argue for GOP rates.
Absolutely! It's to pay off the war debts run up by Reagan/Bush/Bush.

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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 03:13 PM
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13. Didn't the economy do rather well during the Eisenhower years?
I was listening to the radio awhile back, and someone brought up the fact that the economy did quite well during those very high tax rate years.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 05:01 PM
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16. Yup. The "family values" years that small town (real) Americans hearken back to.
We should give 'em what they ask for ... Ozzie & Harriett tax rates!
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Fla Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 02:17 PM
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3. I've never understood how the Repugs sold the "trickle down" theory
In essence, feed the wealthy and you may get to have some of the crumbs they leave behind. The idea is so counterintuitive to anybody with half a brain. Corporations and well-to-do people don't spread the wealth around. Just look at how many jobs and industries have gone overseas. Sure they create more jobs, just not here. Sure they spend money on boats, grand homes, lavish vacations, jewelry etc, but the people building those homes and boats, working in hotels and stores, don't have anything to show for it. Their paychecks have shrunk and they can't make ends meet. Give the lower income earner a tax break and they'll spend the money on the things they need and let it trickle up.
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 02:29 PM
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5. That's a good way a saying it...
I always visualized it as the rich pissing on us...
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 02:33 PM
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6. Two fold sales strategy
-one day you too might be wealthy (if you haven't already convinced yourself that you are) and then do YOU want to pay that much in taxes?*

-the rich create jobs so if we take from them we all lose**

* meaning WEALTHY. Great Gadsby ooold money wealthy (First Families of Virginia/the Walker-Bush crowd)

**this one blends allegiance and idol worship with social darwinism (they are better than you so they deserve to be in the rich families to which they were born)

I didn't number these because it is not a progression. Some have bought the second one before the first one (I had this idea thrown at me on my first canvassing outing)
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JJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 02:38 PM
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7. That's why we are a prozac nation
Cognitive dissonance.

On some level people see that reality doesn't match their beliefs, that's why middle and working class Republicans are so angry all the time.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 05:03 PM
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17. totally. angry, anxious, defensive IS the reaction to living in an environment
where supposedly anyone can be rich & important -

but most people aren't - cause they don't work hard enough/are too dumb...ha-ha.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 02:47 PM
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10. By their own definition...
Only a trickle gets to the bottom. How is that a good idea?
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Fla Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 06:37 PM
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19. My whole point. When ever did a trickle become something to aspire to
Edited on Fri Oct-31-08 06:38 PM by Fla Dem
–verb 1. to flow or fall by drops, or in a small, gentle stream:
2. to come, go, or pass bit by bit, slowly, or irregularly:

How stupid are the sheep that believe this nonsense. They hang on every word of the multimillion dollar talkshow hosts (Hannity, O'Rielly, Limbaugh) who don't have one freaking ounce of concern for the middle class, except that they buy their books and listen to their shows. The ones who worship it and promote its wonderfulness are the rich, who want nothing more than to keep it all.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 02:58 PM
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12. Because the "American Dream" means someday that's YOUR bracket.
People don't want to give away the money they've been assured they WILL have.
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 02:27 PM
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4. McGrumps attacks spreading the wealth while Dennis Prager attacks equality.
I guess people living in the "real" America know what they're talking about.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 02:38 PM
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8. Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
hahahahahhahaha - only the rich don't know this. :rofl: :rofl:


Sorry Gramps!!!
EPIC FAIL
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 05:08 PM
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18. Durn them Soshalists!
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 06:42 PM
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20. Trickle down for children
Father to 10 yr old :



I have 100 dollars, son... Here's $20.

I'll give your smart friend 80, and he'll hire you to help him mow our lawn & clean the garage.

Smart friend gets his little brother to help him for $5, does a half-assed job, steals the change from the unlocked car in the garage, drinks 6 sodas from the refrigerator in the garage and mows half the lawn, cuts the garden hose in 3 places with the mower blade...goes home for lunch and never returns..

Pockets the $75

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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 06:47 PM
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21. So, at least 32% like getting screwn by the wealthy
in our "flow up"economy (the wealth keeps flowing from the bottom 95% to the top five-or even two-percent. Very little EVER "trickles down"). Amazing how the GOP still manages to scam people into voting against their own interests.
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