cspan caller: 'We're all buying guns & bullets till Obama gets into office'

[Philosoraptor]

Nice lady, real fucking nice.

[sweetpotato]

1. Pays to get your Christmas shopping done early!

nuts.

[BridgeTheGap]

2. Read this, to get a glimpse behind the "thinking"

http://www.courier-journal.com/article/20081113/OPINION04/811130348/1054/OPINION

[Delphinus]

17. My,

is that great! This part, in my mind, is too true: Republicans have grown weaker everywhere but the white rural South -- the region that remains the least educated and least diverse.

This is one of the reasons I shy from the South when thinking of relocating.

[tpsbmam]

20. Just pick your areas.....

I moved South about 3 years ago and I LOVE where I live! There are some very progressive enclaves in the South, and I live in one of them. I live in the Asheville area -- beautiful, wonderful place to live. There are many more great areas in the South -- believe me, I took that into consideration before I moved!

[BridgeTheGap]

37. Asheville is great...I lived there for 5 years...Now in Lexington, ky

The cities have fairly liberal populations. The rural areas are another matter.

[SIMPLYB1980]

28. Our Southern Cities are as blue as can be. Hell NC and VA went Blue.

As a Southerner I know where you are coming from, but we are not worse than the "Heartland" I think that will be the area that the republicans will introduced their new "Midwest strategy" to replace their failing "Southern strategy".

[BabbaTam]

51. good southern areas

Yes, there are some great places to live in the south(I live in Texas). I like to call them 'bubbles of sanity'. They exist in big cities like Houston, Dallas, and Austin. You'll find very progressive communities and stable economic bases in university towns that are smaller, yet livable. (San Marcos, Nacadoches) One of the nice things about the south is the weather. We don't have much winter, but you do have to learn to live with the heat. That makes it cheaper to live here. Good luck with your search.
:hi:

[mentalsolstice]

71. There are blue areas of the south

Jefferson County, Alabama, where Birmingham is, you know, THAT Birmingham, went for Obama, and we have a blue congressional district. I'm really happy to live here at this time, as you can feel the energy in the air and see the smiles on people's faces. No dogs and hoses here...

[calimary]

42. Another keeper

Really gives a good insight into the mentality we have to deal with here.

I only wish I could feel as confident about these assholes' increasing marginalization.

[ieoeja]

73. Email from my brother this morning.

"Is it just because I sobered up, or has FOX News lost its appeal?"

My reply, "it's because you sobered up."

[rdublue]

3. When did Obama ever say that his administration was going to 'take away the guns'?

NEVER!

[bdamomma]

9. and what Democratic President has ever taken away someone's

guns? NONE.

[mwb970]

10. Wasn't it in his "New Socialist America" speech?

The one where he talked about outlawing free enterprise, forcing women to get abortions, and closing all the churches? I'm pretty sure that was when he promised to go door to door (with metal detectors) to confiscate everybody's guns.

Did you miss it?

[RaleighNCDUer]

43. No, no, no. He's not going to close the churches.

If he closed the churches, how would he make everybody marry gays?

[peace13]

13. The Rethugs must have hit this hard in the robo calls.

I heard that Obama was going to take the guns from many people here in Ohio. We had this a lot when we called folks for Obama. On a side thought I like to think that folks are buying guns to defend against the * regime not vacating the WH in January. Peace, Kim

[Philosoraptor]

15. Liberals want to confiscate your guns AND bibles!

What a weird paranoid delusion

[yellowcanine]

25. Not to mention your Ten Commandment Plaques!

[Crunchy Frog]

24. When did reality ever impinge on the thinking of RWers?

[SammyWinstonJack]

34. Really, when indeed. It might help, if just once, they actually did some research and

formed their own opinion, had an original thought or failing that, tuned out rushbo and faux news.

[av8rdave]

32. In the words of Bill Mahr...

"If you think they're going to take away your Bible, you're an idiot. If you think they're going to take away your gun, you're an idiot with a gun."

[Recursion]

41. Our platform includes support for a new Assault Weapons Ban

And I promise you, "assault weapon" doesn't mean what you think it does. They're scared we're going to take their guns because we've said we're going to take their guns.

[derby378]

77. Abso-freakin'-lutely

You can't say one thing and then do something completely the opposite. We just suffered through eight years of that.

[gollygee]

4. Doing their part for the economy!

They're going to feel pretty silly when guns are still available through Obama's term.

[FSogol]

5. Oh well, at least the firearms industry won't ask for a bailout. n/t

[leftofcool]

30. I think that is a 100% guarantee in this country

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[SammyWinstonJack]

35. ...

:evilgrin:

[shadowknows69]

53. Oops, guess I was bad BSN.

[bdamomma]

7. what sick

people, they really think someone is going to take their guns away, sad very sad.

very unstable people they are.

[mwb970]

14. You might almost say they are "clinging" to their guns.

Bitterly, even. God help them.

[jmg257]

46. Not "take away", just keep them from getting certain popular types.

If they thought they would be taken away - THEN it would be sad to buy them.

[slackmaster]

54. That, and the potential that legislation could adversely affect the value of collectable firearms

I am somewhat concerned about that.

As for Zombie invasions and such, I have enough Mosin-Nagants, Mausers, etc. and ammunition to arm every household on my block. I'm not worried about lack of firepower.

[jmg257]

64. Of course. Hedging my bets & hoping that a new AWB won't force registration, or limit transfership.

I am in NY, so already screwed otherwise. But my M1 & M1 Carbine "assault weapons"??? Come on!!!

[zulchzulu]

8. A lot of gun owners end up in domestic shooting accidents at home

That's one way to thin the herd.

[Deep13]

57. Thanks a lot.

I doubt I will be in a domestic or any other kind of shooting accident because I know the rules of safety and follow them.

[Hubert Flottz]

11. If they'd head out to Iraq with them we could "WIN" that war by...

KKKristmas

[Philosoraptor]

12. They secretly want to kill black people in a race riot.

[MzShellG]

23. Thats what Ive always assumed their logiic was.

They just wont admit it in public.

[bertman]

47. Philosoraptor, don't forget liberals at a demonstration.

[Posteritatis]

75. Secretly? (nt)

[Deep13]

16. I have one on order.

It was something I was thinking about for the 200 yard target range. I was actually thinking of a bolt-action Olympic type model next spring, but opted for an auto-loader with detachable magazine. They're available now. They might not be next year. Just thinking ahead is all.

I still voted for Obama, but that was despite his support for further restrictions, not because of it. SOMEBODY has to pull our economy out of the toilet and it sure as hell wasn't going to be McCain.

[TheCowsCameHome]

18. They'll feed your family and keep them warm this winter.

Good luck, Whacko.

[Crunchy Frog]

19. My brother is currently selling his gun collection,

and apparently is getting very inflated prices for them.

[bunkerbuster1]

31. Smart investor.

[yellowcanine]

21. Well at least they will be able to defend their foreclosed houses and pickups from the repo man.

[aikoaiko]

22. This gun buying spree is fueled by Obama saying he supports renewing the Assault Weapons Ban ...

...and a Democratic Congress who have put forth assault weapon ban reauthorizations often.

And this will hurt us come the midterms if there are any new bills proposed.


eta: Fortunately, there appears to be some subtle changes going on since change.org has removed some references to supporting the AWB. Obama needs to come out and say that he will veto any new Federal gun bans.

[Deep13]

58. Yup. Two things ended our majority in 1994.

One was the tax increase even though I agree with it. The other was the so-called assault weapons ban.

[KharmaTrain]

26. Ain't The Thought Of A Unitary Executive A Bitch...

I heard the call...but it's not like we don't hear them every day now or someone links to yet another Freeperland thread that shows how off the rails the wingnuts have gone. These are the same goons who not just thought using torture was ok, but a good thing...as well as domestic spying and other obtrusions in the name of "homeland security". Karma surely is a bitch. May they flop around in their sweat, tin foil and fear for a good long time.

[Corgigal]

27. Do It.

Also while you're at it make sure you get a NRA tattooed on your ass. So owned, fearful good ole boys.

[bunkerbuster1]

29. Yawn. they said the same stuff when Clinton was elected.

Let's not over-react to this, folks.

[Peacetrain]

36. Yes they did.. I just want the Secret Service to keep a closer

eye on them, because they really thought they were the majority. They are taking it pretty hard, now that they realize they are this group of ankle biters, and they are scared of their shadow, thinking we will do to them, what they "wanted and fantasized" about doing to us

[bunkerbuster1]

40. I agree that there are legitimate security threats out there.

I just want DUers to keep this in context.

[barbiegeek]

70. Over-react: Remember Oklahoma City

The militia groups went nuts during Clinton. Dems should own guns. They are crazy. Remember Timothy McVey (sp?) Oklahoma City b*mb*er.

[bunkerbuster1]

74. Hey, I've no problem with Dems arming themselves.

I just want folks to keep this overhyped story in perspect. The exact same thing happened when Clinton was elected; gun sales skyrocketed, because Republicans are very good at making a certain segment of low-information gun owners terrified of Democrats.

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[renie408]

38. I am OK with that. Most suicides are with a hand gun. n/t

[Ganja Ninja]

39. They'll all be pawning them in 6 months thanks to the Bush economy.

:eyes:

[slackmaster]

45. Yes, and once we are out of Iraq and Afghanistan there will be cheap surplus ammunition again

Bargains galore!

[jmg257]

44. Been there, done that - have enough for now. Which is good, what with the economy the way it is.

BTW, did she say WHY?

Getting 'em while she can? Planning a revolt? Christmas around the corner?

[Johonny]

48. anything to stimulate the economy

[nc4bo]

52. I'm sure the gunshop owners will have an extraordinarily good Christmas

making a ton of loot off of looney dingbats :rofl:

[armed_and_liberal]

49. 80 million gun owners, 4 million morans

The NRA only represents about 5% of the gun owners in the US. It confounds me that these dumb-fucks always stand in the way of sensible legislation.

[jmg257]

50. What would you consider "sensible legislation"? And why? nt

[armed_and_liberal]

65. no bulk sales and magazine limits

A federal limit on bulk sales of handguns is number one on my list.One handgun a month.

No one sane is buying a dozen 9mm's a month to add to his personal collection. Here in NY we have significant hand gun crime. Many of the weapons recovered have origins traced to states that do not have bulk sales restrictions (such as Vermont) these guns are often sold through private sales to individuals in other states that have stricter laws( such as New York)

Instead of a ridiculous state to state list of so-called "Assault" weapons that are banned. Just limit the magazines on all weapons to 10 rounds and let everyone buy what ever weapon they want.

[jmg257]

67. I like the "bulk sales" thing. I need to think a bit more on the mag caps...

At 1st I would disagree. I know when limited ( I am in NY too), I bought "better" calibers instead. i.e. Why limit myself to 10 rounds of 9mm (it's traditional claim to fame was capacity - but I still prefered a few less rounds of a better caliber on duty), when I could have 10 rounds of .40 or even .45 for CCW. I would go the same way with .223 vs .308.

I have been (happily) able to get standard cap mags for my 92F and AR due to the grandfathering, but avoid guns like the newer FNs 'cause of cap limits.

Hmmm...

Thanks for sharing!

[Edweird]

76. Check out the Para Ordnance 14.45.

It's kinda big, but I love it. It eats anything I put in the magazine without fail. I like it better than my Kimber....

[Bluebear]

55. ooh, some kind of Heaven's Gate mass suicide planned, is there?

[ensho]

56. I was hoping the host would ask the caller 'Why' they were buying guns

I wanted to hear that answer.

[aikoaiko]

59. I'll tell you why I bought mine recently.

Obama never let go of supporting reauthorizing the Assault Weapons Ban, and now that he will be president and have Democratic controlled houses in congress, I think there is a good chance it will be renewed.

You may or may not know that many of the guns listed or described in the AWB legislation are popular, modern, ergonomic firearms that are useful for target shooting and self-defense (hunting too, but less so). These were not fully-automatic weapons, but rather SEMI-automatic weapons.

I'm bought an AR-15 lower recently because I can shoot lots of different calibers through it with the proper upper and magazines.

Prices could double on the pre-existing firearms (especially if an AWB reauthorization comes without another sunset).

[ensho]

62. so you bought a gun now because you think under Obama you can't?

and you needed this gun for what?

or are you a collector of guns like some people collect sports cards?

[aikoaiko]

63. I bought a gun now because with Obama's stated position and Dem congress

its more likely than ever that I wouldn't be able to purchase that gun in the future.


My reasons are these:
Self-defense: An AR15 is much better in most situations for home defense than even the venerable shotgun.

Target shooting: The modularity of the AR15 allows me to put a long range high end upper for high precision or a .22lr upper for inexpensive recreational shooting and self-defense training.

Investing: AR15s hold their price well even without a ban in place. With a ban, they could double.

Collecting: Yes, I do collect guns a little bit like the way people collect sports cards.

For my son: He is only 3 years old, but I hope he'll like shooting like his Daddy. I'm buying somethings with him for when he is old enough to shoot.

[old mark]

60. I'm a Democrat. I bought my guns when Bush was elected.

They were much cheaper, and now I don't have to stand in line with a bunch of republicans.

mark

[jmg257]

61. And if looking for "why" we should not allow govt such power, then Bush is a poster child.

There will always be a 50/50 chance we might not agree with the next winner, so why give any of those in charge power they should not have?

[Spirochete]

66. Wish it would occur to them

They only need one bullet apiece.

[Dukkha]

68. so Palin's paranoia & incite to violence rallies were effective

She better be held accountable when someone tries to enact on Obama. Several made made real threats already it's only a matter of time again.

[Sabriel]

69. That's a really bad idea, lady

Under his Marxist regime, you'll have to share them with your neighbors. My advice to you is to hold off until everyone has bought, and then you'll get them for free under the redistribution of weapons.

[B Calm]

72. Now you know why they fucked up this economy! No money for food

or for the house payment, but they have money for guns.