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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 08:01 AM Original message |
IT WAS NOT THE WORKERS!! |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 08:03 AM Response to Original message |
1. Slave labor market bullshit and I am sick of them too! |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 08:04 AM Response to Original message |
2. Top management must be ousted, and then all interests have to compromise. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 08:05 AM Response to Original message |
3. No bailout = no more retiree benefits. |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 09:21 AM Response to Reply #3 |
19. BINGO! |
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Eurobabe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 03:40 PM Response to Reply #3 |
53. I worry about my Uncle who worked his entire life |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 08:05 AM Response to Original message |
4. Can you think of any economic problem of the past, say, 100 years... |
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Hubert Flottz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 08:12 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. If auto workers don't deserve a pension why should a congressman? |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 11:18 AM Response to Reply #7 |
44. !!! |
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Ganja Ninja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 08:10 AM Response to Original message |
5. It's amazing how some people that would never work an assembly line job ..... |
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SmileyRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 08:36 AM Response to Reply #5 |
14. Because being disabled at 50 is just so much fun. |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 09:16 AM Response to Reply #14 |
17. That's right! So many of our people end up less than 100 when they retire. |
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Ganja Ninja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 10:31 AM Response to Reply #17 |
28. Yup I've been there. |
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Kokonoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 09:36 AM Response to Reply #14 |
20. Autoworkers work in pain, thats not what gets through in msm. |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 03:24 PM Response to Reply #20 |
50. Yes, on the line it is not a piece of cake. In fact, they keep finding ways |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 11:19 AM Response to Reply #5 |
45. In my life I've found there very, very few 'easy' jobs and no such thing as non-skilled. |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 03:32 PM Response to Reply #5 |
51. And they think that their jobs will be safe. But they don't realize |
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liberal N proud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 08:10 AM Response to Original message |
6. They are trying to blame everything on the Unions |
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surrealAmerican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 10:45 AM Response to Reply #6 |
30. It's almost as if they want to make sure a person can't ... |
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sarcasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 11:07 AM Response to Reply #6 |
41. Make no mistake this is what the fight is all about, the last powerful union. |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 03:34 PM Response to Reply #6 |
52. Remember when Chrysler got the loan and Lee Iacocca accepted only $1 for his annual salary? |
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lurky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 08:13 AM Response to Original message |
8. Like how they blame poor black people for the financial crisis. |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 08:17 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. The one and only exec. I've heard on the subject sounded dumber than a pile of dog excrement. |
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JHB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 08:24 AM Response to Original message |
10. "Pimp My Company" by getting rid of the MBA pimps. |
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obiwan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 08:30 AM Response to Original message |
11. Management and ownership caused this debacle. |
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JHB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 08:31 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. You forgot the "sarcasm" tag, right? |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 10:58 AM Response to Reply #11 |
33. Thank you. The Cuban viewpoint is always interesting. |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 11:00 AM Response to Reply #11 |
37. God, I hope you're not serious. n/t |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 03:42 PM Response to Reply #11 |
55. Bite my wrinkled old UAW ass |
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SmileyRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 08:35 AM Response to Original message |
13. The big 3 don't have pension costs. They are lying. |
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Truth Teller (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 01:38 PM Response to Reply #13 |
49. Got a link? |
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SmileyRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 07:08 AM Response to Reply #49 |
62. Newsweek hardcopy |
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Kokonoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 08:50 AM Response to Original message |
15. The money is in a pension fund. |
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blueknight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 08:58 AM Response to Reply #15 |
16. it was 1984 i believe, |
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Kokonoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 09:53 AM Response to Reply #16 |
21. Sorry, not the workers. Huugh..I agree. |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 09:20 AM Response to Original message |
18. People have bought into the anti-union meme |
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ananda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 09:56 AM Response to Original message |
22. Remember Dali's Slave Market and the Disappearing Bust of Voltaire? |
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surrealAmerican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 10:51 AM Response to Reply #22 |
32. very apt metaphor. |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 10:00 AM Response to Original message |
23. I Completely Agree |
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nichomachus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 10:08 AM Response to Original message |
24. Blame the corporatists |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 10:27 AM Response to Reply #24 |
27. You mean if Raygun had not entirely eliminated President Carter's plan |
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nichomachus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 10:36 AM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Give credit where credit is due |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 10:59 AM Response to Reply #29 |
36. Yep, he was an asshole and he was almost always wrong, but |
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nichomachus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 11:07 AM Response to Reply #36 |
40. He did some things egregiously wrong, but |
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VPStoltz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 03:41 PM Response to Reply #40 |
54. It was the same with the Clinton mess. |
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barbtries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 12:46 PM Response to Reply #29 |
48. i have to say |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 10:58 AM Response to Reply #27 |
34. "Took away our future to make his parasite masters richer" -- |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 10:09 AM Response to Original message |
25. The Middle Class Is ALL That Matters To An Economy |
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Lost4words (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 11:06 AM Response to Reply #25 |
39. Agreed Professor! |
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hamsterjill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 10:20 AM Response to Original message |
26. Absolutely it was not the workers!!!! |
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Lost4words (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 10:58 AM Response to Reply #26 |
35. Yes! exec compensation is the root of much of the problems |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 10:47 AM Response to Original message |
31. Couldn't be clearer -- |
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paparush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 11:04 AM Response to Original message |
38. Can't we come up with some kind of CAP that says Management cannot make more than X% more |
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Lost4words (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 11:15 AM Response to Reply #38 |
43. A cap to the temple would be most effective IMO. |
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sarcasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 11:10 AM Response to Original message |
42. That's a right wing talking point that many on this board use, makes me sick too. |
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FredStembottom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
46. Union workers are overpaid only in relation to child labor..... |
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barbtries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 12:39 PM Response to Original message |
47. i find that really infuriating as well |
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VPStoltz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 03:43 PM Response to Original message |
56. No even two weeks after the election and the Republicant machine is at it. |
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grannylib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 11:58 PM Response to Original message |
57. Union wages only SEEM high because other wages are so damn |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 01:01 AM Response to Reply #57 |
59. exactly |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 12:42 AM Response to Original message |
58. I worked in the Paint Shop at the South Gate GM plant in 80/81 |
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Jack Sprat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 05:19 AM Response to Original message |
60. These so-called patriotic Americans |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 06:06 AM Response to Original message |
61. I despise the bastards who are putting their failures on the backs of workers who would be making |
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