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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 11:12 PM
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Obama's Holdovers in Pentagon Leadership Still Pushing Hard for New Generation of Nuclear Weapons
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GENERAL Kevin Chilton, commander of US Strategic Command has been pushing hard since Spring, along with Pres.-elect Obama's holdover Defense chief, Robert Gates, in a desperate attempt to get traction under the Bush defense establishment's ambition to yoke the next generation of Americans to a 'new generation' of smaller 'usable' mini-nukes.

The WaPo reported that Chilton, addressing the Nuclear Deterrence Summit in Washington Wednesday, warned that "time is not on our side" to modernize the nation's nuclear weapons stockpile, particularly as China and Russia upgrade their nuclear warheads and delivery systems."

The general also argued in favor of stepped up construction of modernized nuclear power plants which would facilitate the next generation nukes.

The U.S. today "has no nuclear weapon production capacity," he said. "We can produce a handful of weapons in a laboratory but we've taken down the manufacturing capability." At the height of the Cold War, the U.S. produced 3,000 weapons a year.

Obama's decision to retain Bush's Defense Chief has allowed Robert Gates and the current Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Admiral Mike Mullen, to continue and amplify their own affinity for new nuclear weapon production to respond to what they see as new threats coming from China, Russia, and Iran.

Admiral Mike Mullen testifying about the state of our nuclear arsenal in 2007 raised the issue of nukes as a deterrent to Iran. “I’m especially concerned about the increasingly hostile role played by Iran,” he said. “I support diplomatic efforts to counter Iran’s destabilizing behavior and hope their leaders will choose to act responsibly, but I find their support for terrorism and their nuclear ambitions deeply troubling.”

As the U.S. continues what is likely to be a “longer, larger war on terror,” the U.S. military could be taken to places “we do not now foresee,” Mullen said. Meanwhile the United States must be able to “deter if possible and defeat if necessary” regional powers that might be armed with nuclear weapons"

"China and Russia have embarked on ambitious paths to design and field new weapons," Defense Secretary Gates said in October. "To be blunt, there is absolutely no way we can maintain a credible deterrent and reduce the number of weapons in our stockpile without either resorting to testing our stockpile or pursuing a modernization program," he said.


The military industrial warriors in the Bush administration had decided from the beginning of his term to go ahead with their plans to 'refurbish' the existing nuclear arsenal, designating the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in California over the Los Alamos National Laboratory in New Mexico for the project if it happens to get the funding from the, so-far, reluctant Congress. The warheads were said to be destined for the nation's 'sea-based' nuclear weapons as part of the Trident submarine-launched ballistic missile system.

In September 2000, PNAC drafted a report entitled "Rebuilding America's Defenses: Strategy, Forces and Resources for a New Century." The conservative foundation- funded report was authored by Bill Kristol, John Bolton and others. The report called for: ". . . significant, separate allocation of forces and budgetary resources over the next two decades for missile defense," and claimed that, despite the "residue of investments first made in the mid- and late 1980s, over the past decade, the pace of innovation within the Pentagon had slowed measurably." Also that, "without the driving challenge of the Soviet military threat, efforts at innovation had lacked urgency."

The PNAC report asserted that "while long-range precision strikes will certainly play an increasingly large role in U.S. military operations, American forces must remain deployed abroad, in large numbers for decades and that U.S. forces will continue to operate many, if not most, of today's weapons systems for a decade or more." The PNAC document encouraged the military to "develop and deploy global missile defenses to defend the American homeland and American allies, and to provide a secure basis for U.S. power projection around the world."

The paper claimed that, "Potential rivals such as China were anxious to exploit these technologies broadly, while adversaries like Iran, Iraq and North Korea were rushing to develop ballistic missiles and nuclear weapons as a deterrent to American intervention in regions they sought to dominate. Also that, information and other new technologies – as well as widespread technological and weapons proliferation – were creating a ‘dynamic' that might threaten America's ability to exercise its ‘dominant' military power."

In reference to the nation's nuclear forces, the PNAC document asserted that, "In reconfiguring its nuclear force, the United States also must counteract the effects of the proliferation of ballistic missiles and weapons of mass destruction that may soon allow lesser states to deter U.S. military action by threatening U.S. allies and the American homeland itself."

"The (Clinton) administration's stewardship of the nation's deterrent capability has been described by Congress as "erosion by design," the group chided. The authors further warned that, "U.S. nuclear force planning and related arms control policies must take account of a larger set of variables than in the past, including the growing number of small nuclear arsenals –from North Korea to Pakistan to, perhaps soon, Iran and Iraq – and a modernized and expanded Chinese nuclear force."

In addition, they counseled, "there may be a need to develop a new family of nuclear weapons designed to address new sets of military requirements, such as would be required in targeting the very deep underground, hardened bunkers that are being built by many of our potential adversaries."

The Bush administration's nuclear program is a shell game with their ambitions hidden within Energy and Defense legislation, most under the guise of research. Reuters, in October 2003, reported that the Bush administration was proceeding with their plans to promote and push for the expansion of the nation's nuclear arsenal with the unveiling of an initiative produced by the ‘Defense Science Board'. The supporting document, named the “Future Strategic Strike Force”, outlines a reconfigured nuclear arsenal made up of smaller-scale missiles which could be targeted at smaller countries and other lower-scale targets. The report is a retreat from decades of understanding that these destructive weapons were to be used as a deterrent only; as a last resort.

Mohamed El Baradei, the head of the International Atomic Energy Agency, had said as early as 2004 that U.S. development of new nuclear weapons could hamper efforts to reach agreement with other countries who might want to expand their nuclear programs; like Iran and Pakistan, for example.

In September 2003 the Senate went along anyway with a White House push to reduce the preparation time required for nuclear testing in Nevada; clearing the way for a resumption of nuclear test explosions which have been banned since 1992. It sought to cut the time it would take to restart testing nuclear weapons in the Nevada desert from three years to two years. The Bush administration wanted the period cut to 18 months.

The bill would have also provided $11 million for a new factory to make plutonium "pits" for the next generation of nuclear weapons. The last U.S. facility for manufacturing nuclear triggers closed in 1989. Democrats in Congress have been the slim thread which has held back funds for these pernicious nuclear initiatives.

President Bush signed into law a Defense bill for 2004 which included $9 billion in funding for research on the next generation of nuclear weaponry.

"It's an important signal we're sending," President Bush remarked at the signing of the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2004, "because, you see, the war on terror is different than any war America has ever fought."

"Our enemies seek to inflict mass casualties, without fielding mass armies," he cautioned. "They hide in the shadows, and they're often hard to strike. The terrorists are cunning and ruthless and dangerous, as the world saw on September the 11th, 2001. Yet these killers are now facing the United States of America, and a great coalition of responsible nations, and this threat to civilization will be defeated."

However, this is a posture usually reserved for nation-states who initiate or sponsor terrorists. The devastating neighboring effect of a potential nuclear engagement would contaminate innocent millions with the resulting radioactive fallout, and would not deter individuals with no known base of operations. Yet, this administration, for the first time in our nation’s history, contemplates using nuclear weapons on countries which themselves have no nuclear capability, or pose no nuclear threat.

Gen. Lee Butler, of the Strategic Air Command, along with former Air Force Secretary Thomas Reed, and Col. Michael Wheeler, made a report in 1991 which recommended the targeting of our nuclear weaponry at "every reasonable adversary around the globe." The report warned of nuclear weapons states which are likely to emerge." They were aided in their pursuit by, John Deutch, President Clinton's choice for Defense Secretary; Fred Iklé, former Deputy Defense Secretary, associated with Jonathan Pollard; future CIA Director R. James Woolsey; and Condoleezza Rice, who was on the National Security Council Staff, 1989-1991.

The new nuke report recommended that U.S. nuclear weapons be re-targeted, where U.S. forces faced conventional "impending annihilation ... at remote places around the globe," according to William M. Arkin and Robert S. Norris, in their criticism of the report in the April 1992 issue of the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists ("Tiny Nukes").

At the same time, two Los Alamos (Lockheed) nuclear weapons scientists, Thomas Dowler and Joseph Howard, published an article in 1991 in the Strategic Review, titled "Countering the Threat of the Well-Armed Tyrant: A Modest Proposal for Smaller Nuclear Weapons." They argued that, "The existing U.S. nuclear arsenal had no deterrent effect on Saddam and is unlikely to deter a future tyrant."

They argued for "the development of new nuclear weapons of very low yields, with destructive power proportional to the risks we will face in the new world environment," and they specifically called for the development and deployment of "micro-nukes" (with explosive yield of 10 tons), "mini-nukes" (100 tons), and "tiny-nukes" (1 kiloton). Their justification for the smaller nuclear weapons was their contention that no President would authorize the use of the nuclear weapons in our present arsenal against Third World nations. "It is precisely this doubt that leads us to argue for the development of sub-kiloton weapons," they wrote.

In a White House document created in April 2000, "The United States of America Meeting its Commitment to Article VI of the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons," the administration stated that, "as the United States reduces the numbers of its nuclear weapons, it is also transforming the means to build them." Over the past decade, the United States has dramatically changed the role and mission of its nuclear-weapon complex from weapon research, development, testing, and production to weapon dismantlement, conversion for commercial use, and stockpile stewardship.

"The Bush administration has directed the military to prepare contingency plans to use nuclear weapons against at least seven countries, and to build new, smaller nuclear weapons for use in certain battlefield situations," according to a classified Pentagon report obtained by the Los Angeles Times. The 'secret' report, which was provided to Congress on Jan. 8, 2004 said the Pentagon needed to be prepared to use nuclear weapons against China, Russia, Iraq, North Korea, Syria, Iran and Libya. It says the weapons could be used in three types of situations: against targets able to withstand non-nuclear attack, in retaliation for attack with nuclear biological or chemical weapons, or in the event of ‘surprising military developments.'

The National Institute for Public Policy's January 2001 report on the "rationale and requirements" for U.S. nuclear forces, signed by then -Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, was being used by the U.S. Strategic Command in the preparation of a nuclear war plan. Three members of the study group that produced the NIPP report - National Security Council members Stephen Hadley, Robert Joseph, and Stephen Cambone, a deputy undersecretary of defense for policy - were directly involved in implementing the Bush nuclear policy.

As reported by the World Policy Institute, the NIPP's report was used as the model for the Bush administration's Nuclear Posture Review, which advocated an expansion of the U.S. nuclear "hit list" and the development of a new generation of "usable," lower-yield nuclear weapons. Most observers do not believe, however, that the new weapons can be developed without abandoning the non-proliferation treaty and sparking a new and frightening worldwide nuclear arms race.

Stephen Hadley, Bush's former National Security Assistant and Condi Rice's deputy, co-wrote a National institute for Public Policy paper portraying a nuclear bunker-buster bomb as an ideal weapon against the nuclear, chemical or biological weapons stockpiles of rouge nations such as Iraq. "Under certain circumstances," the report said, "very severe nuclear threats may be needed to deter any of these potential adversaries."

The Bush Energy Department planned to assemble teams at three U.S. laboratories to begin constructing these new powerful "mini-nukes." Work on preliminary designs for the weapons known as "Robust Nuclear Earth Penetrators" would begin first at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in California and finalized at Los Alamos National Laboratory in New Mexico. The report suggested that the Livermore laboratory would take on the bulk of the work if approved. Lawrence Livermore's scientists were slated to modify the existing B83, a hydrogen bomb designed for the B-1 bomber, while those at Los Alamos was to work on the B61, which already has been modified for earth-penetrating use.

Bechtel would benefit directly from efforts to expand testing and production of nuclear weapons. Bechtel is part of a partnership with Lockheed Martin that runs the Nevada Test Site for the U.S. Bechtel runs the Y-12 plant in Oak Ridge Tennessee, which makes critical components for nuclear warheads; and it is involved in the management of the Pantex nuclear weapons plant in Amarillo, Texas. Bechtel's $1 billion-plus in annual contracts for "atomic energy defense activities" are likely to grow substantially under the Bush nuclear plan. In 2002 Bechtel earned $11.6 billion. The company has built more than 40% of the United States' nuclear capacity and 50% of nuclear power plants in the developing world. That's 150 nuclear power plants.

Bechtel is also in charge of managing and cleaning up the toxic nuclear waste at the 52 reactors at the Idaho nuclear test site from our '50's nuclear program, as well as two million cubic feet of transuranic waste buried on the site, such as plutonium-covered shoes, gloves and other tools used at the nuclear lab in Rocky Flats.

Under the administration's original refurbishment proposal the Lockheed Y-12 National Security Complex would refurbish the secondary nuclear weapons; the Savannah River Tritium Facility would supply the gas transfer systems; Sandia National Laboratory would produce the neutron generators and certify all non nuclear components; Pantex plant would serve as the central point for all assembly and dis-assembly operations in support of the refurbishment work; Los Alamos and Lawrence Livermore would continue to certify nuclear warhead design.

The weapons would be shipped to the Pantex plant to remove the uranium and any parts which can be used in new weapons; then the remaining parts will be shipped back to the plant for further processing.

The National Policy Review's concept of a "New Triad" emphasizes the importance of a "robust, responsive research and development, and industrial base." The "old" triad is the combination of land, sea, and air-based nuclear delivery vehicles that were developed during the Cold War to offset a nuclear attack on America. The New Triad calls for a "modern nuclear weapons complex," including planning for a Modern Pit Facility, and new tritium production to respond to what the administration claims are "new, unexpected, or emerging threats" to U.S. national security.

The NPR also mandated the development of what they term a "credible, realistic plan" for a "safe, secure, and reliable" stockpile. Already, $40-50 million has been budgeted for the project. According to the National Nuclear Security Admin.'s deputy administrator for defense programs, Everet Beckner, the designers would work to modify the weapons "to make them more powerful."

Beckner is a former Vice President of Lockheed. He served as the chief executive of Lockheed Martin's division that helped run the UK's Atomic Weapons Establishment, and was charged in the Bush administration with oversight of the maintenance, development, and production of U.S. nuclear warheads. Beckner testified to a Senate committee that, "It is clear that if the nation continues to maintain a nuclear arsenal it will need to make new nuclear pits at some point."

Most modern nuclear weapons depend on a plutonium pit as the "primary" that begins the chain reaction resulting in a thermonuclear explosion. A pit is a critical component of a nuclear weapon and functions as a trigger to allow a modern nuclear weapon to operate properly. The Department of Energy announced its intent to begin an examination of several possible sites for a Modern Pit Facility to produce plutonium pits for new and refurbished nuclear weapons in September 2002.

The United States is the only nuclear power without the capability to manufacture a plutonium pit. About three-fourths of the U.S. surplus plutonium is relatively pure in the form of so-called pits, which have been removed (and deactivated) from existing warheads. The remaining fourth of the surplus was in the process pipeline, mostly as plutonium residues, when processing was suddenly discontinued. The Soviet government processed all of its material to completion, so now all of the Russian surplus is in the form of pits or its weapon-form equivalent.

The Foster Panel Report, also known as the FY2000 Report to Congress of the Panel to Assess the Reliability, Safety, and Security of the United States Nuclear Stockpile, found that it could take 15 years from the point of developing a conceptual design for a pit facility until the final construction of the facility is completed. The report stated that, "If it is determined through the science-based Stockpile Stewardship Program that one or more of our existing pit designs is no longer reliable, and therefore is not certifiable, our nuclear stockpile would, in effect, be unilaterally downsized below a level which could maintain a strong nuclear deterrence."

That is the hook which supporters of an expanded nuclear program will use to justify an abrogation of the treaty ban, and begin their new-generation arms race. If they don't get their way - to fiddle with and refurbish the existing nukes - they will argue that deterrence is at risk; a preposterous notion, as our existing arsenal is more than enough to blow us all to Pluto.

Citing a "classified analysis" the Bush DOE claimed it needed to have a new pit facility capable of producing 125-500 pits per year. The DOE's Notice of Intent for the MPF also stated that one of the functions for the facility will be to have the ability to produce new design pits for new types of nuclear weapons. If new money was released, the nuclear weapons laboratories were expected to refurbish the casings on the existing nuclear B-61 and B-83 warheads, according to Energy Department official Beckner, who testified before a Senate committee in March. Beckner claimed that both weapons have yields "substantially higher than five kilotons," so he has determined that the study will not violate a 1994 U.S. law prohibiting research on "low-yield" nuclear weapons.

A version of the B-61, modified to strike hardened and deeply buried targets, was added to the U.S. stockpile without nuclear testing in 1997. There is a serious question about the effectiveness of such a weapon on underground bunkers, and there is a concern that the neighboring effect of the radiation cloud would be devastating. A nuclear strike on North Korea, for example, could generate deadly radioactive fallout, poisoning nearby countries such as Japan or Australia.

It is immoral and wrong for this administration to hide their nuclear ambitions and proceed as if they had won the debate over the acceptability of nuclear power, when in fact no such public debate has occurred. The nuclear hawks are stepping out from behind their Trojan Horses of nuclear space travel and ‘safe', new nuclear fuels and are revealing a frightening ambition to yoke the nation to a new legacy of imperialism. Nuclear hawks like Gates and his generals are resolved that America's image around the globe is to be one of an oppressive nuclear bully bent on world domination.

Our folly is evident in the rejection of our ambitions by even the closest of our allies, as we reject all entreaties to moderate our manufactured mandate to conquer. Isolation is enveloping our nation like the warming of the atmosphere and the creeping melt of our planet's ancient glaciers. We are unleashing a new, unnecessary fear between the nations of the world as we dissolve decades of firm understandings about an America power which was to be guileless in its unassailable defenses. The falseness of our diplomacy is revealed in our scramble for ‘usable', tactical nuclear missiles, new weapons systems, and our new justifications for their use.

We should oppose any money for new research or construction which would serve to refurbish or expand our existing supply of nuclear weaponry. We should also support provisions which intend to dismantle such weaponry if the intention and result is for the disposal of these harmful weapons and their radioactive waste in a safe and effective manner.

In respect to all of these issues, I feel that all of the nuclear ambitions of the Bush holdovers, both at the Pentagon and with respect to energy production, are a foot in the door for those who would expand our existing nuclear program and would draw our nation into a new nuclear arm's race; exacerbating the problems of proliferation; threatening the safety and the health of workers, the community and the environment. They should be strongly resisted.

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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 08:58 AM
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1. since 2003
. . . I've been fighting this.

feels like treading water
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waiting for hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 09:03 AM
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2. Colbert had Senator Bob Graham on last
Edited on Fri Dec-05-08 09:06 AM by waiting for hope
night talking about his new book - World at Risk and how Pakistan will probably be at the epicenter of a nuclear strike in the next five years. While I put my :tinfoilhat: hat on, there was something really ominous about the whole situation.
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Cobalt-60 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 09:05 AM
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3. We can't afford them
Its not like we don't have nukes and effective ordinance now.
Just tell the boys that their little party in Iraq has used up all the money.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-08 09:43 AM
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6. but they want smaller, 'usable' nukes
. . . and new nuclear plant construction modified to support it.

I smell a bailout.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-08 09:51 AM
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7. Why do you come here and berate Obama so
He hasn't come into the oval office yet but here you are trying to scare the shit out of us. What gives bigtree?

Whose side are you on anyway?

Looks like a lot of wasted ink to me

Peace and have a great day :hi:
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-08 10:06 AM
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9. Why do you berate me so?
I've been advocating against this push for new nuclear weapons since 2003. I wrote a book from which the body of this article is taken from. The thrust of this article is about Gate, Mullen, and Chilton. Did you even bother to read it?

The Bush administration is still in power. The man Obama has picked to run Defense is out there right now advocating for new nuclear weapons. Why in hell should I be required to stifle myself on THAT?

I'm tired of the bashing for advocating for issues that I've spent YEARS on. Day after day fighting this. Not just here. Fighting the very same people that Obama expects to run his Pentagon. If you think that's out of bounds then I really don't know what to say. I think your efforts to berate me and stifle discussion of this is foolish. Apparently you believe that Bush officials should be able to operate now with impunity because Obama will be sworn in soon. That's just nonsense. These people are pressing for a continuation of their push for new nuclear weapons. That effort should be fought tooth and nail WHEREVER it occurs. If you read the article you would see that this Bush holdover is waging it right in front of us. Why are you so content to wait to confront these Bush administration holdovers on this? They are counting on your indifference.

WHO'S FUCKING SIDE ARE YOU ON??
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-08 10:17 AM
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10. The problem is you make mountains out of mole hills, thats all
I'll refraim from the reading anymore of it.

Peace man and have a great mad, apparently you're needing it.

In all your wisdom do you....... oh nevermind. I go

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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-08 10:41 AM
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12. How idiotic. YOU disagree or are disinterested and that's 'making mountains out of molehills'
I suppose every interest or concern YOU have is somehow critical and important. And, telling me to 'have a great mad?' Are you just provoking me because it's giving you some rush? Are you getting some thrill belittling my concerns? You are presenting yourself as a dilettante. Is there ANYTHING you care enough about to defend above all else. Is ANYTHING more important to you than your insecure defense of the man we just elected?


I'VE HAD IT WITH THE BASHING HERE. I'm not going to stop advocating for issues I've fought for years


. . . just because Obama or the people he's employed might be in the way.

I did what I was supposed to do after the primary. I fought and promoted the candidacy of Barack Obama and fought hard against McCain. I didn't think for a moment that the price for that would be that I'd have to stifle myself here on every issue that I care about until he's sworn in, or else, be accused of trying to somehow 'hurt' Obama. WHO MADE THAT RULE??

The man himself has said repeatedly that he expects us to disagree with him and that he welcomes those criticisms. But some folks here think he's made of glass and will shatter from a blow of words and advocacy. You really can't think much of him to discount his own invitation of dissent where we disagree and to assume that he's so fragile that he can't bear disagreements with his actions or his stated intentions.

Political advocacy isn't usually a gentleman's game, but here at DU we make an effort to at least respect each other as we express our opinions on the issues and concerns that we care about, usually deeply enough to bother to share our views with perfect strangers. I don't expect everyone to agree with me, but I do expect to be regarded as sincere on the issues that I've been pressing for and fighting for in the years that I've posted here, almost daily.

I expect Pres. Obama to have enough strength to maintain his position against my advocacy. It's not intended in any way to undermine his presidency. But, there's no reason, outside of an election, why I should be expected here to quietly tolerate actions by Pres. Obama or ANY of his principals that I disagree with, just in the interest of providing some political prop.

And, take your 'peace' crap and shove it. You don't wish me 'peace'. You're not thinking of anyone except yourself when you make these attacks on me and my character.

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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-08 10:51 AM
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14. Well don't have a good day then whatever you do
is that better?





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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-08 11:13 AM
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15. There is, in the article, some very important information about nuclear refurbishing
. . . along with a summary of the players and history of the new nuclear weapons issue that was raised this week and in the past year by the hard sell of these Bush holdovers. I spent months researching, writing, and spent my time and money to publish what I'd found in an effort to forestall or end any move by these Bush era military industrial executives to begin their new nuclear arms race with China and Russia.

There's NOTHING in this article about Obama except for the mention in the title that these are Bush holdovers.

You're not doing anything here except working to muddle or discredit my efforts. It would be fair to ask you what you're really trying to accomplish here?
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-08 09:55 AM
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8. Along with the bu$h tax cuts for the wealthy and millions of jobs lost, the bail-out for Wall St.
Yep, no money left for their little party.

And more importantly, no money left for anything else either, which was the real MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!
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patriotvoice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 11:50 AM
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4. "I find their support for terrorism and their nuclear ambitions deeply troubling." Yes, but..
I find your lack of pants disturbing.
http://www.keepersoflists.org/index.php?lid=1906


(In case it's not obvious... the Emperor is Mullen, and the swindlers are Chilton and Gates.)
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 08:40 PM
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5. kick
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Orwellian_Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-08 10:28 AM
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11. Defense Chief: Give Us New Nukes, or Else
Defense Chief: Give Us New Nukes, or Else
By Nathan Hodge EmailOctober 28, 2008 | 1:02:00 PMCategories: Nukes

The U.S. needs new nukes. That's the message Pentagon chief Robert Gates is delivering right now, as part of a broad, spirited defense of America's nuclear arsenal.

Congress and the Bush administration have been wrestling for years over the so-called Reliable Replacement Warhead — the next generation of nuclear weapon designs. Lawmakers have had the upper hand in the match, eliminating funding for RRW. Today, in a speech to the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, Gates looks to scramble back on top, with a dire warning to Capitol Hill.

"To be blunt, there is absolutely no way we can maintain a credible deterrent and reduce the number of weapons in our stockpile without resorting to testing our stockpile or pursuing a modernization program," Gates says, according to his prepared remarks.

In other words, fund this thing, mothertruckers, or we start testing. The United States concluded the last full-scale underground test of a nuke in 1992, and declared an official moratorium two years later; a return to testing would be a really big deal. In a speech last month on the limits of U.S. power, he alluded — briefly — to the importance of RRW. That part of the speech earned few headlines, but for nuke-watchers, it was a telling moment.

Gates is also teasing out a novel argument for RRW: Everyone else is doing it.

"Currently, the United States is the only declared nuclear power that is neither modernizing its nuclear arsenal nor has the capability to produce a new nuclear warhead. The United Kingdom and France have programs to maintain their deterrent capabilities. China and Russia have embarked on ambitious paths to design and field new weapons"

http://blog.wired.com/defense/2008/10/gates-fund-new.html

Gates Sees Stark Choice on Nuke Tests, Modernization

By Elaine M. Grossman
Global Security Newswire

WASHINGTON — In a major policy address yesterday, U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates laid out a stark choice for the nation between testing the existing nuclear arsenal or modernizing it with new weapons (see GSN, Sept. 24).

Speaking at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, Gates said one of the two controversial options must be implemented if the United States is to retain a safe, secure and reliable nuclear deterrent.

He also stated in the clearest terms yet his view that U.S. leaders would not have enough confidence to further shrink the atomic stockpile unless they could either field new weapons or submit aging nuclear arms to underground tests.

“To be blunt, there is absolutely no way we can maintain a credible deterrent and reduce the number of weapons in our stockpile without resorting to testing our stockpile or pursuing a modernization program,” the defense secretary said.

At the same time, Gates voiced little enthusiasm for underground explosive testing, asserting for the first time that he would support ratification of the Comprehensive Nuclear Test Ban Treaty if “adequate verification measures” could be devised.

<snip>

http://www.nti.org/d_newswire/issues/2008_10_29.html#342F4709
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-08 10:46 AM
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13. thanks, I hadn't seen these
That's the hook they are using, that we either submit to their refurbishing, modifying the warheads or concede them their new nukes. Even my candidate Bill Richardson spoke favorably of the refurbishing choice. Atomic scientists say the choice is absurd. They contend that the arsenal is fine.

We're definitely being challenged to challenge them. I wish these cretins were just gone or headed out the door.
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