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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 12:15 PM
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Is it Caroline Kennedy or Caroline Kennedy Schlossberg.

I recall for the longest time that she went professionally by Caroline Kennedy Schlossberg, but more recently it seems as if media, various websites like wiki, and DU are using the former (Caroline Kennedy).

I'm fine with either, but has there been a change by her or just us?

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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 12:16 PM
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1. As I understand it, she never changed her name after getting married.
Edited on Wed Dec-17-08 12:17 PM by The_Casual_Observer
So it would be Kennedy.
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 12:21 PM
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2. True, if she never changed her name then it would have to be CK.

Its odd that so many big media used Schlossberg.

Thanks.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 12:27 PM
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3. The vast majority of women STILL take husbands' names.
Edited on Wed Dec-17-08 12:28 PM by MookieWilson
Not as much in her circles, but something like 75% change names.

But when you've got a famous one, you're not likely to mask it with another. That's why you actually have Anna Eleanor Roosevelt III or IVth, I'm not sure which.
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 12:30 PM
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5. True enough, its just that I recall so many media actually using Schlossberg in years past

that I thought she used it.

Apparently I was wrong.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 12:41 PM
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7. I made the same mistake. I think the NYT uses CKS. nt
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 12:33 PM
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6. Things have changed. Hillary Rodham did not, either
being politically active long before she married Bill.

However she did change after Bill lost an elections and it was presented to her that she needed to appear as the supporting little wife.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 01:00 PM
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14. It was actually pretty radical NOT to take your husbands name in the 70s. nt
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 01:32 PM
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15. Fewer and fewer U.S. women do that. I didn't when I married 29 years ago. Older, professional
women are less likely to change their name.

Sometimes, when I'm writing a social note or invitation to people who know my husband but don't know me, I sign it from him and from me, with my husband's last name added to mine. That's just to make it easier for people to know that I'm his wife so they don't wonder "Who is that?".
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 01:57 PM
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16. Something like 75% still do. the numbers shocked me.
This country - and women - are a whole lot more conservative than the demographic you and I run with.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 02:10 PM
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20. That's what I recently read, which was confusing. Being visible in NY, the media called her Caroline
Edited on Wed Dec-17-08 02:11 PM by OmmmSweetOmmm
Kennedy Schlossberg, until very recently.

I was so surprised that when the Schlossberg disappered, I thought she might have gotten divorced.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 12:29 PM
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4. Caroline Kennedy. n/t
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 12:43 PM
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8. This issue also relates to why 'Eleanor Roosevelt' was often called 'Eleanor Roosevelt'...
while FDR was still alive. Usually, it was the practice to refer to wives as 'Mrs. Franklin D. Roosevelt', and widows as 'Mrs. Eleanor Roosevelt', but since 'Roosevelt' actually was HER name, she got it before he died. Truman always emphasized that "she was a Roosevelt before she married a Roosevelt."

Interesting.
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margotb822 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 12:59 PM
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11. I saw the FDR special on the History Channel
and they noted that she and FDR were actually distant cousins, which accounts for the same last name.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 12:59 PM
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12. 5th cousins. She and he had to draw it on endless cocktail napkins to explain it. nt
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 12:52 PM
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9. She kept her name.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 12:55 PM
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10. I support Caroline for Senator. nm
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 01:00 PM
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13. The name "Schlossberg" won't get you a Legacy Admission to the Senate, so it's Kennedy. nt
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 02:00 PM
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17. Exactly. She was Schlossberg until being Kennedy proved useful. nt
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 02:00 PM
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18. In this case, you are wrong
She never changed her name to Schlossberg, so she would have had to know that she would want a Senate seat in the future. The fact that she is interested in it now has no bearing on what she is called.

Why all the anger that she never changed her name?
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HeraldSquare212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 02:08 PM
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19. She was repeatedly referred to Caroline Kennedy Schossberg in the press
before this all started. Her marriage may be a strained one, too - gossip is she's dating the publisher of the NY Times. So that may explain 'Schlossberg' disappearing, also.
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 02:13 PM
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21. Just because the media referred to her as CKS doesn't mean
that it is her legal name. She never changed her name when she got married. Every once in a while, the media is wrong. I know it's hard to believe, but it's true
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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 02:31 PM
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23. She has ALWAYS used the name Kennedy and not her husband's names
Her many books are published under the name Caroline Kennedy. What other people call her, especially news media, is not her decision.
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 02:47 PM
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26. That is what I said
It was the person I was responding to that said "But the media refers to her that way". I was pointing out that it is possible for the media to be wrong, as they were in referring to her as CKS
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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 04:28 PM
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29. Sorry, I didn't mean to sound like I was refuting you
I was supporting what you were saying with the proof that can be seen on the covers of her books.
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 04:53 PM
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30. Thanks
I don't understand why some people think she is "changing" her name because she wants the Senate seat. And then think that because the MSM has been calling her CKS in the past they are correct. The MSM made assumptions, and they were wrong.

I didn't think you were disputing me exactly, I thought maybe you replied to the wrong person. No worries. :hi: :hug:
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polmaven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 02:39 PM
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25. Paricularly when the media
is largely male dominated, and cannot imagine that a woman does not automatically become an extension of her husband when she marries, losing all trace of her own identity!
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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 02:23 PM
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22. Remember when a certain NY Senator dropped "Rodham" when it was politically convenient? Same thing.
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 02:49 PM
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27. This has nothing to do with politically convenient
She has always been Caroline Kennedy, she never changed her name when she got married.
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 02:35 PM
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24. I think she should go by only "Caroline", kinda like Hillary and Madonna
It isn't just the Kennedy part that makes her more likely to get elected after her appointment expires, it's her name recognition as "Caroline". Can you name anyone else other than Hillary or Madonna who could be immediately identified by their first name only on a national basis?
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tabbycat31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 03:43 PM
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28. people actually pronounce Hillary and Madonna correctly
if I had a penny for every time that I've heard someone butcher the name Caroline, I'd be richer than a Kennedy. It even happens on this forum.

My name is Caroline (yes, I was named after CK) and when I was growing up, there was one year in either middle or high school where I did not have a single teacher pronounce my name correctly. I was even yelled at for correcting the pronunciation of my own name and correcting people became a losing battle. I'm hoping that Caroline Kennedy back in the spotlight will teach people how to pronounce "Caroline" correctly (even some of newscasters pronounce it "Carolyn")
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