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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 11:11 PM
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Leaked Obama Transcript Explains Rick Warren Decision

John Aravosis
Posted December 17, 2008 | 07:26 PM (EST


The following conversation may, or may not, have occurred between President-elect Barack Obama and the chair of the Joint Congressional Committee on Inaugural Ceremonies, US Senator Diane Feinstein (D-CA):

BARACK OBAMA: So who we gonna have do the invocation at my inaugural?

DIANNE FEINSTEIN: Oh my God, you're gonna love this, B.

BO: Okay Di, hit me.

DIFI: Ready? Rick. Warren.

BO: You mean conservative evangelical Christian leader Rick Warren?

DIFI: Yup.

BO: Rick Warren who wants to ban all abortions and basically said that I support a holocaust?

DIFI: Uh huh.

BO: The guy who compared gay marriage to pedophilia and incest, and helped lead the fight for Prop 8 in California?

DIFI: That's him.

BO: The man who said he agrees on everything with far-right nut James Dobson.

DIFI: Yesiree.

BO: But Di, the guy has devoted his entire life to destroying everything I stand for, everything I believe in, everyone who worked so hard and so long to put me into office.

DIFI: I know, isn't it brilliant!

BO: I don't get it.

DIFI: Okay, think about it. You're so post-partisan that you're willing to embrace and promote someone who loathes you, didn't vote for you, and will do everything in his power to destroy your presidency. It's like the Lieberman thing, but even bigger!

BO: So you mean, by promoting a guy who represents none of my goals, ideals or hopes that the majority of the country voted for, and by devastating my own supporters on what was supposed to be a day of celebration and national rebirth, I'm actually promoting "change" by publicly undermining it?

DIFI: Exactly!

BO: But won't I be screwing the gays, women, and pretty much everyone else who got me elected?

DIFI: Never stopped me.

BO: But doesn't this make me no better than the guy I'm replacing or the guy I just beat?

DIFI: Never stopped me.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-aravosis/leaked-obama-transcript-e_b_151914.html?view=print



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Veritas_et_Aequitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 11:14 PM
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1. Ha!
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 11:14 PM
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2. That sums it up pretty well for me
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 11:16 PM
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3. Perfect!
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 11:17 PM
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4. Certainly seems like an accurate portrayal of war profiteering DLC shitbag Feinstein
Hopefully not the case with Obama, but after Prick Warren, Tom Monsanto VilSuck, and a Wall Street "self regulator" in charge of the SEC (all within the last 24 hours) I must admit I'm very disturbed by recent developments. :evilfrown:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 11:22 PM
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 11:29 PM
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6. K and R
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tyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 11:52 PM
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7. I swear
some of you are worse than the extreme right-wingers.

For shame.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 12:18 AM
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9. Why? For recommending an OP that sums up Warren's positions?
You are aware that this is an accurate representation of Warren's positions, aren't you?
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 12:20 AM
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10. IF YOU LIKE THEM SO MUCH, MAYBE YOU SHOULD JOIN THEM.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 12:20 AM
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12. Maybe he already has. Lot of right-wingers around here tonight.
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 12:36 AM
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15. If you want to throw a rw party
just post a pro gay thread. :sarcasm:
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 12:12 AM
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8. doesn't it take tremendous digging to even know where Warren stands
on stuff like that? I doubt too many people know what Warren stands for.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 12:20 AM
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11. No, it's really easy to find Warren's positions on these matters, and the OP summarizes them.
Rick Warren has compared abortion to the Holocaust (he's opposed even if the life of the mother is at stake). He has compared gay marriage to incest and pedophilia. He has stated that Jews will burn in hell. He believes that women should submit to the authority of their husbands.

This is all easy to find. Warren is proud of his views.
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 12:30 AM
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14. Just follow the links in this brilliant OP.
You will have your information.
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 12:39 AM
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16. Oh the media whore is well known
he was just placing a "PEACE" medal around the outgoing guys neck.

Here's a little something that shows him:

http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 12:28 AM
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13. K-R
:thumbsup:
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Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 12:42 AM
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17. Oh come on, this is just flame bait, regardless of where it came from.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 12:46 AM
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18. Grand disappointment in the Feinstein gang of betrayors and I hope this is
not adone deal. Can there be a petition? We're still killing, torturing, stealing and this is the best we can do - Warren? A war monger on many fronts?
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 12:49 AM
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19. Do we still think that Feinstein, hoyer, ried, Pelosi are still being blackmailed or something
that appears to indicate blackmail or some other loyalty probloem?

Rick Warren? I rebel with DISDAIN. I protest. I quit. I don't care anymore.
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kevinbgoode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 12:54 AM
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20. Well hey. . .it's just another day for the "inclusive"
agenda of President "Separate but equal" Obama. Everyone is included but the ones he publicly claims must be separate through "civil unions" because he doesn't have the balls to acknowledge that all marriages ARE already "civil unions."

This is the last time I contribute to a Democratic candidate who insists that I must remain a second-class citizen for the good of someone else's "religious" version of my country.
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qwlauren35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 01:13 AM
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21. I'm so ignorant. When did Feinstein become one of the "bad guys"?
And if she's so awful, why is she still there?
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rvablue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 02:59 AM
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22. Amen! n/t
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 11:54 AM
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24. She has been pro-war for years, then we learn her husband is in the weapons
business, there were many votes along the way that left us moanind and crying - PEAKED by her lead for Mukasey and her immunity for AT & T and the others and their San Francisco operation - ot the initial 'room' = in other words she fully supports war and spying. To state it very bluntly. Perhaps, someone else can add eloquence to her disapproval score among many of us.
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 09:54 AM
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23. It's easy to blame Feinstein
But IMO this decision was all Obama - he's the one that chose to attend Warren's asinine "debate" & reached out to evangelicals & he's the one who's embraced "faith-based" programs wholeheartedly. Obama's also had issues w/the LGBT community in the past. This is totally consistent.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 06:22 PM
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25. Sweet! k*r

** HUBRIS ** Mr. Hugh Bris ** Mr. "I'm the One" **

I hadn't paid any attention this Warren guy unless he's the one with the fake magic booth.

In any event, when I saw the part about the guy linking gay marriage to pedophelia (and I trust you
that it's accurate, w/out doubt), then I realized it. This level of bad taste and insolence is an
example of the hubris that comes with the rapid acquisition of power.

I don't expect much other than a rational response to crises as they arise. I was confident that
we'd get some of that but maybe that's a fault of mine, optimism;) and the expectatin of rational
behavior.

But this is really over the top, as you so well point out. It's really amazing.a
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