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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 04:58 AM
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Obama sure has a lot of "Jesus pals." However, they're
seemingly ALWAYS getting him in trouble.

Why is it he cannot select better Jesus pals?

People that would not offend and alienate such large numbers of Americans?

A possibility of 8 years of Jesus pals really worries me.

It might be only 4 if he doesn't get it together.

Why is such an intelligent thinker so blinded by religion?

He doesn't seem nearly as smart when he involves himself in this issue.

Tragic.


rick warren
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 05:05 AM
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1. To be fair, our other choice had her set of "Jesus pals" that
freaked me out as well. Google Hillary and the Fellowship.

Just once I would like a plain old "keep their religion to themselves" Unitarian or Protestant. Or even, gasp, an agnostic.

Or at least someone that doesn't "pal around" with bigots. And this time, the descriptive fits.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 05:13 AM
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2. Like Rev Lowery?
He does select Jesus pals who don't offend large numbers of Americans. He is just ignored when he does.
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Political Tiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 05:32 AM
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3. I believe Obama is able to separate his religious beliefs
from his political beliefs. He's not George W Bush.

Obama has never given any indication that his religious beliefs, or the religious beliefs of others will influence his decisions when it comes to governing the country.
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 05:45 AM
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4. You don't really believe God told Bush to go to war with
Iraq do you?

Bush in a recent interview has said that is not true.

Not to mention Bush came across as not really giving a damn about the bible.

Most people recognize what PNAC is.

And I think most people would say Bush invaded Iraq to get back at Saddam for Poppy.

If anything, Bush is fairly consistent with his nutty religious views.

Obama is not.

Example:

Opposed Proposition 8 in California, yet is opposed to same sex marriage.

What?

No wonder the opposition was able to use that mixed message and trick voters who weren't really clear where Obama stood/stands.

I think it's too early to know how much religion will influence him politically.

Let's hope you're right because his makes nothing but poor choices when it comes to faith.
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polmaven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 04:03 PM
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11. I doubt the poster beilives it,
But Bush may well believe it. That was the poster's POINT!
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 06:09 AM
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5. I donated way more money to Obama than I could afford
after this shit, not a penny more.
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HillWilliam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 07:03 AM
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6. We did, too, but if they think this is the thing
that will make us sit down and STFU, they're sadly, sadly mistaken. Watch this space. This is called "we will ride you like stink on shit" from here out. What, they couldn't find an imperial grand wizard with an open date that day for a gig? Puhleez.

It's not about Obama, with me. It's about those boneheads around him. He needs to start winnowing and quick or this "change" shit we've been hearing about is NewSpeak for MOTS (more of the same). Been there, done that. Look around. Stooput hasn't worked out so well.
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 07:29 AM
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7. I, of course, didn't donate a nickel because it's no secret he
wasn't my candidate.

I did vote for him, which is better than a donation.

It's priceless.

So even though I didn't donate, I also feel he owes me for my vote.
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HillWilliam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 08:39 AM
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8. Indeed, the franchise is priceless
my young friend. It's worth more than anything. It's trust and trust is the most precious thing in any relationship, whether it be friendship, a love, business, or governance. Trust, once broken, is difficult if not impossible to repair.

I can understand the necessity of putting some retreads in the Cabinet. Somebody has to know where the light switches are and the bodies are buried. You can't clean up Washington if nobody on the cleaning team knows where to look or how deeply to look.

But to slap women and gays in the face with this snake-handler is just one step way too far. Way, way too far. Warren is not just a political enemy. He is an enemy of common sense. He is an enemy of liberty. He is an enemy of rational thought. He is a stated enemy of GLBT people.

I'd like to think that I measure my emotions in political dealings. I try to take a long view. I'm 51 years old; I've been around a lotta blocks a lotta times. I have seen. It. All. Very little -- almost nothing -- shocks me. I can be surprised. I can be disappointed. But I am rarely shocked.

This Warren thing has quite nearly managed. :wtf: were they thinking.

If that was an olive branch to the extremist right, it was a cat-o-nine applied to the backs of the rest of us.
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 03:59 PM
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9. k
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 04:03 PM
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10. No one seems as smart when they involve themselves in the issue.
Just sayin.
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