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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 05:10 PM
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Would you support the waterboarding of bush & cheney to extract information?
No, I don't support waterboarding, it's torture.

Or, Yes, strap them fuckers down and turn on the h2o.
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RT Atlanta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 05:12 PM
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1. strap 'em down....
n/t
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Joe Fields Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 05:12 PM
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2. Well, there are two schools of thought on this...
One is correct, but the other would be very tempting.
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Phentex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 05:13 PM
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3. How do you torture a man with no brain
no feelings? no emotions?

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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 05:13 PM
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4. To extract information...
nah but for kicks I'd have it performed repeatedly.
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Bertha Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 05:13 PM
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5. Of course not. n/t
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 05:13 PM
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6. Hey, if they're for waterboarding, why would I want to keep them from enjoying their
own enjoyment of it?
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 05:14 PM
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7. Certainly not. NT
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 05:14 PM
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8. I'm not sadistic so no I wouldn't
torture does not give actionable information.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 05:28 PM
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23. Plus, whenever you say "torture" around Cheney, he sprouts his megaboner
He's practically torture-proof that way.
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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 05:15 PM
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9. What information are we talking about here?
The way I see it, there's enough to hang him on without torture. He doesn't even have to say anything.

But to answer your question, unless the information was very vital, like safety of the world at stake vital, then no, I wouldn't support it.

I would however, waterboard him just for fun. LOL, just kidding. Maybe.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 05:15 PM
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10. Note the difference between supporting YOU doing it vs supporting the STATE doing it...
But in this case I wouldn't support either.

There's still a difference, though, even if my judgments happen to coincide.
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 05:16 PM
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11. No, I don't support waterboarding, it's torture.
Not only no, HELL NO!!!
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 05:16 PM
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12. Absolutely not. Torture is wrong (AND worthless) no matter the motive. nt
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SidneyCarton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 05:17 PM
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13. No.
If it's wrong, it's wrong. Torture brooks no nuance, if we have retaken our nation only to adopt the methods of the enemy then we are as worthy of derision as they are, and are truly equally complicit in the death of democracy.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 05:17 PM
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14. You hold 'em down, I'll get the hose

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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 05:17 PM
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15. to extract information... or
just for fun? :evilgrin:











Ok, Ok, just kidding... (I think)
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 05:18 PM
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16. Payback's a bitch .......
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 05:20 PM
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17. Maybe "one more time?"
Strap them down and pour water down their throats screaming all the while, "DID YOU DO 9/11? DID YOU DO 9/11?" When they finally say "yes" (and they will), hold that up as "proof" Bush and Cheney were behind 9/11. When the freepers and neo-cons go apeshit and declare the confessions invalid because Bush and Cheney were "tortured," remind them it wasn't torture but "enhanced interrogation." The right-wingers will throw their hands up and finally admit defeat before the cool, steadfast logic of progressives, and both sides of the argument will agree that waterboarding is and always has been, indeed, "torture."

And I would use dirty toilet water...
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 05:22 PM
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18. My soul is not as dark as theirs and leaders that supported their decisions.
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chucktaylor Donating Member (201 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 05:25 PM
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19. No n/t
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Richard D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 05:25 PM
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20. not for information . . .
. . . just for fun.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 05:26 PM
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21. no. n/t
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 05:26 PM
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22. Pfff, like you're gonna get any useful intel out of monkeyboy
And Cheney? Shit, he'd consider it a form of foreplay. If you're looking to torture for actionable intelligence, I suggest walking up behind Doug Feith and saying "Freeze, punk, we're taking you the Hague!"

He'd flip faster than a pancake on a hopping rabbit.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 05:28 PM
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24. Interesting to see the responses of those who believe torture is OK
if THEY do it.

Bzzzt. Back to Ethics 101.
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 05:30 PM
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25. It would be OK to waterbaord them because they don't think it's torture.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 05:42 PM
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26. Yes. They don't believe it's torture anyway.
They'd probably enjoy it. :shrug:
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stuntcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 05:49 PM
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27. only if it was in public, like nationally televised
Edited on Thu Dec-18-08 05:49 PM by stuntcat
and done by mad old ladies.
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guardian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 09:38 PM
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28. sure...but
You can't get information from someone who is brain dead :-)
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