Did Obama just pw3n Holy Joe Leiberman?

[Fumesucker]

Doesn't this make Holy Joe's Homeland Security Committee redundant?

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/08/us/politics/08council.html?_r=1&ref=politics

Obama Is Reported Set to Revise Counterterrorism Efforts


By PETER BAKER
Published: January 7, 2009

WASHINGTON — President-elect Barack Obama is preparing to scrap the way President Bush oversaw domestic security in the White House and name a former Central Intelligence Agency official to coordinate counterterrorism, people close to the transition said Wednesday.


The plan being discussed would eliminate the independent homeland security adviser’s office and assign those duties to the National Security Council to streamline sometimes overlapping functions. A deputy national security adviser would be charged with overseeing the effort to guard against terrorism and to respond to natural disasters.

Democrats close to the transition said Mr. Obama’s choice for that job was John O. Brennan, a longtime C.I.A. veteran who was the front-runner to head the spy agency until withdrawing in November amid criticism of his views on interrogation and detention policies. His appointment would not require Senate confirmation.

[SpiralHawk]

1. Take that, Liebertoady, you republicon homelander phony, you

Back to the Irrelevancy Bus with you

[DCKit]

9. UNDER teh bus, por favor. n/t

[malaise]

2. Checkmate

Does Obama play chess? :rofl:

[Fumesucker]

4. All your committee are belong to us..

:evilgrin:

[quiet.american]

45. Perfect. nt

[bdamomma]

3. they should ditch the agency, what has it done?

[xultar]

5. pw3nd like a muthafucka. BOOOM SHAKA LAKA SHAKA LAKA!

[glitch]

6. In addition to the advisor, let's retire the department and the term with Bush.

I hope to never hear "homeland" again after Jan 20. Wouldn't that be nice?

[Lex]

8. the term has bad associations and should be retired

I agree

[RufusTFirefly]

11. I agree. "Homeland" creeps me out in a visceral, Nazi sort of way

I have images of everyone joining hands and singing "Tomorrow Belongs to Me." Very creepy.

[elocs]

19. The first time I heard "Homeland Security" I thought of the Third Reich.

It somehow fits with Bush, though.

[Maeve]

17. Abso-f'ing-lutely!!

We are a nation of immigrants (and I say that even tho my family has been here at least since 1750) and 'homeland' is the wrong term. National security, domestic security, yes, but not 'homeland security'.

[bdamomma]

24. the homeland term needs to be ditched just like surge.

[quiet.american]

46. Agreed one hundred percent. nt

[Celebration]

7. had a strong premonition this would happen n/t

[terisan]

10. Brennan was defender of torture and strong advocate for Fisa expansion. Wake up Libs.

[Fumesucker]

12. I know, but Lieberman is even more odious..

What was it Churchill said about using the devil if it helped defeat Hitler?

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

16. Blah Blah Blah.

[terisan]

20. Read Salon on Mr. Pro Rendition Brennan, NYT article fudged the facts.

In Salon, quoting Brennan. and showing him speaking out of both sides of mouth.

Obama is continuing Fisa spying and maybe much more.


JOHN BRENNAN: I think it's an absolutely vital tool. I have been intimately familiar now over the past decade with the cases of rendition that the U.S. Government has been involved in. And I can say without a doubt that it has been very successful as far as producing intelligence that has saved lives.

[Ian David]

13. Candidate for C.I.A. Post Withdraws His Name

November 25, 2008, 5:05 pm
Candidate for C.I.A. Post Withdraws His Name
By Mark Mazzetti

John O. Brennan, a C.I.A. veteran who many believed would be the spy agency’s next director, on Tuesday withdrew his name from consideration for a top job in the Obama administration amid concerns he was intimately linked to controversial C.I.A. programs authorized by President Bush.

In a letter to President-elect Barack Obama, Mr. Brennan said he did not want these concerns to be a “distraction” for the incoming administration. At the same time, he vigorously defended his C.I.A. record and called himself a “strong opponent” of the harsh interrogation methods the agency has used in recent years, including waterboarding.

The letter came as a surprise to many intelligence experts and even some lawmakers, and some questioned whether Mr. Brennan had been forced to withdraw his name by senior members of Mr. Obama’s transition team who were concerned about Mr. Brennan’s association with Bush administration policies. One official with the Obama transition team, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the decision was entirely Mr. Brennan’s.

The opposition to Mr. Brennan had been largely confined to liberal blogs, and there was not an expectation he would face a particularly difficult confirmation process. Still, the episode shows that the C.I.A.’s secret detention program remains a particularly incendiary issue for the Democratic base, making it difficult for Mr. Obama to select someone for a top intelligence post who has played any role in the agency’s campaign against Al Qaeda since the Sept. 11 attacks.

More:
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/11/25/candidate-for-cia-post-withdraws-his-name/

[Ian David]

14. Is that the only committee of which LIEberman is a chairperson? n/t

[mikelgb]

15. no

"The cabinet Department of Homeland Security would not be affected by any of these moves."

[Hawkeye-X]

18. Yes, yes, fine, if you want to keep the damn cabinet, but at LEAST

change the name to less Hitleresque, please.

Hawkeye-X

[Fumesucker]

22. You mistake a feature for a bug. n/t

[Fumesucker]

21. Right, not formally however..

I suspect that power will flow away from Lieberman with this move, it's uncanny how Obamas opponents seem to trip over their own shoelaces.

It's wise to recall that Obama has a nine fingered former IDF troop as his chief enforcer.

:evilgrin:

[TheWraith]

38. Maybe not formally, but is counter-terrorism is treated as national security rather than "Homeland,"

Then Lieberputz is basically left overseeing the Coast Guard and the Border Patrol, with all the important stuff happening elsewhere.

[QueenOfCalifornia]

23. I'm trying to figure out

what pw3n means.

But if it means to do away with, I am all for it. Anything to make that little mealworm squirm.

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

26. It means "own"

As in "you got owned."

As in "You got handed your ass on a platter."

I still don't see how it has anything to do with Lieberman, though.

[Fumesucker]

27. LOL..

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pw3n

pw3n

A silly abbreviation of the equally silly word "pwn," which is derived from a misspelling of the word "own."

It is used to indicate superiority.
"I'm cool I scored 4 million points playing Pac-Man. I totally pw3n Inky's ass."

[QueenOfCalifornia]

28. Hmmmm....

Thank you for the definition. I usually just use the Google to find out what some of the keyboard shorthand is... This time I wondered if it was just me.. If I am the only person on the planet who doesn't know what the blogbuzzword du jour is.

Could you please tell me though, why you think Lieberman will be pw3n'ed?

Why would it make his job, that he doesn't really do in the first place, obsolete?

[Fumesucker]

34. I see it as an end run around Liebercreep's committee.. n/t

[Freddie Stubbs]

25. How would this effect Leiberman?

:shrug:

[terisan]

29. Article seems misleading. Brennen was defender of rendition and harsh interrorgation

He also is big defender of Fisa. This seems to me to be the signal that Obama does indeed intend to keep the spying program, which he did vote for, and may be waffling on the "harsh interrogation" techniques or renditions or something else.

Brennan withdrew from his previous appointment in the Bush administration because some Senators were opposed to his defense of hardline policies.

Note that this new position means Congress doesn't get to question him. There seems to be much subterfuge here and I don't know for sure what is going on----but it is not straightforward.

I think there may be a reason that Bush and Cheney are not afraid of being called to account on torture. This is disappointing.





edited for spelling

[MessiahRp]

30. There goes the whole, 'it would have passed anyway, he'll change it once he's in office' rationale

Paraphrasing of course. What a silly notion.

Rp

[WhiteTara]

31. way to go Obama!

take that loserman

[DainBramaged]

32. I PREDICTED THIS WOULD HAPPEN, YES I DID

(polishes fingernails against shirt, blows on them to increase luster, breaks out the Turtle wax).

I am just so damn good.

[opihimoimoi]

33. Under the Bus.....Joe is Under the Bus.....

[Ichingcarpenter]

35. I couldn't figure out what Liarman was doing after meeting with Obama yesterday

WASHINGTON, Jan. 7 (UPI) -- Sen. Joseph Lieberman said Tuesday that the top priority of the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee is completing an authorization bill.

Lieberman, I-Conn., who chairs the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, met Tuesday with Arizona Gov. Janet Napolitano, President-elect Barack Obama's nominee for secretary of homeland security. After the meeting, Lieberman said a top priority for his committee is to mark up an authorization bill, CongressDaily reported.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=3678590&mesg_id=3678590

His committee is gonna be marginalized and he knows it.

[Javaman]

36. asshole joe just got neutered...

:rofl:

[annabanana]

37. Did he also just smush Peter fucking King of NY?

With his homeland security committee spot?

I sure hope so.

[DainBramaged]

41. How that bastard gets elected time after time amazes me

and he is just so out of place in NY Politics.
http://www.nastyletters.blogspot.com/

Peter King + Karl Rove= Best Friends Forever

[BattyDem]

39. While the rest of us are playing checkers, Obama's playing chess.

:rofl:

[backscatter712]

40. PWNED!!!!111

Very nice, actually.

One of the virtues of having a highly intelligent President is that he can pull sneaky maneuvers like this.

Looks like Lieberman's oversight committee won't have much to oversee...

[dodger501]

42. Man, I am ignorant

What does 'pw3n' mean and how does this event affect Lieberman?

[anonymous171]

43. Reminds me of FDR's attempt to stack the Supreme Court

Didn't work, but it put the fear of the Executive Branch into the formerly obstructionist judges.

[Soylent Brice]

44. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

suck it droopy.

[tbyg52]

47. Thank you for pointing this out! You made my day! nt