5 "Democrats" voted against paycheck equality....

[FLAprogressive]

names to follow...

(3 Republicans voted in favor)

CLARIFICATION: 5 "Dems" have voted against the Lily Ledbetter act -- 3 "Dems" voted against a related bill

[patrice]

1. marking for later.

[WI_DEM]

2. Not bad, overall, that represents a 94% party unity on that issue.

[dflprincess]

9. Yes and no

I would expect all Democrats to support equal pay.

[Hell Hath No Fury]

3. I think those "Dems" need to hear from us ladies...

and the men who support us. :mad:

[hlthe2b]

4. Did it pass?????????!

[FLAprogressive]

5. the first bill did....they're voting on the second now.

[hlthe2b]

6. Can you explain? I'm not able to watch and am ill informed

it would appear...

[Idealism]

7. Blue dog coalition?

[dmallind]

13. only 2 of the 6 different voters listed are Blue Dogs - 2 of 47

so in other words less than 5% of Blue Dogs so voted.


But don't let that stop kneejerk smearing.

[Idealism]

14. Not a fan eh lol

[dmallind]

15. A fan of truth is what I am. You? NT

[Idealism]

18. I would like to think so

[dmallind]

19. In which case then you surely agree

That Blue Dogs were not the majority of the recalcitrant Dems on equal pay, and only a tiony fraction of Blue Dogs voted against it?

Right?

I look forward to incorporation of this understanding on future posts concerning Blue Dog philosophy since you like to think you are a fan of teh truth.

[dmallind]

20. Dupe delete NT

[Idealism]

23. It seems those are the facts

[FLAprogressive]

22. they all fit the blue dog mold

white
southern (except Minnick)
pro-corporate
anti-choice
homophobic

[FLAprogressive]

8. CLARIFICATION: 5 Dems have voted against the Lily Ledbetter act -- 3 voted against a related bill

[FLAprogressive]

10. Here they are:

Paycheck Fairness Act:
Bobby Bright (AL)
Walt Minnick (ID)
Parker Griffith (AL)

These three are freshman reactionaries the DCCC spent MILLIONS on to elect.

Lily Ledbetter Act:
Dan Boren (OK)
Allen Boyd (FL)
Bobby Bright (AL)
Travis Childers (MS)
Parker Griffith (AL)

[hlthe2b]

11. All from southern or at least bright red "right to work" states

:eyes:

[merh]

12. Yup

the "right to work brigade" that still believes that employers (corporations) must be protected at all costs.


:argh:

[Blue_Roses]

16. bingo!

:eyes:

[Lorien]

26. And all men, naturally

the Bible belt has far more single mothers trying to raise their family on one woman's paycheck than the rest of the Nation. :grr:

[OwnedByFerrets]

31. Yeah, I just love living in a right to work state.....NOT

[pleah]

28. Not surprised about MS,

there doesn't seem to be much difference between thugs and dems down here.

[Enrique]

35. Lily Ledbetter is from Alabama

this whole thing started with a southerner.

One of the three republicans who voted for the bill is from Kentucky.

[pleah]

38. ?

What does that have to do with what I said? :shrug:

[Enrique]

17. 250 voted FOR it

and more importantly it passed. Real progress!

[dmallind]

21. Including, should it be lost in the subthread above, 95% of Blue Dogs. NT

;jklj

[patrice]

24. DUly noted. Thanks. nt

[lonestarnot]

25. 2009, Isn't that something.

[Lorien]

27. No kidding

I've only spent 75% of my working years getting paid less than my male peers for the same job. I guess I'll be told that I'm "lucky" that it won't be 100%. :eyes:

[lonestarnot]

29. Fucking A. Lucky.

[Enrique]

30. it wasn't luck

It was work. We could be waiting until 2099 if it weren't for Lily Ledbetter herself, who bravely fought to the Supreme Court and continued even after losing there, and if it weren't for the organizations who supported her and politicians like George Miller, Ted Kennedy, Nancy Pelosi, Hillary Clinton and Harry Reid, and the nearly unanimous dem caucus who voted for the bill.

[Lorien]

39. The point is that the ERA should have passed ages ago

and spared millions of us the injustice of being paid on the basis of our gender.

[book_worm]

32. I find it interesting that there have been a couple of threads about the five dems who voted against

this bill and really no celebration that 250 Dems, almost every dem in the house, voted for it. And that with the new Dem Senate it is almost certain to pass (given it lost by only 3 votes in the senate in the last congress) and a new president, Obama, will sign it. But it's easier around here to be negative about everything.

[Lyric]

33. Pray tell, why should we be jovial and celebratory about Dems doing

what they're SUPPOSED to do--the right thing?

It's not like this was a difficult choice to make for anyone with more than two brain cells to rub together, and even a smidgen of a heart.

Of *course* there's more attention paid to the "negatives" in this case, as you put it. The ones who voted badly are FAR more remarkable than the ones who voted well. Honestly, would you expect lots of celebration if we passed a bill that officially declared waterboarding to be torture? I mean DUH--it's not like that's a terribly controversial position for a Democrat to take these days. What IS controversial would be a Democrat OPPOSING a law like that--and that would be what people talked about.

Our Dem lawmakers are not dogs; they don't need a treat and praise every time they do something that's obviously correct in order to reinforce the behavior.

:eyes:

[Enrique]

34. because it affects people in their real lives

it's acknowledging real progress, and what it took to get there. This was not automatic, people had to do things. I'm sure that many women in Lilly Ledbetter's situation did not fight.

If we only focus on the negatives, it give a distorted picture that progress never happens and when it does it happened by itself. How could it not? Everyone's in favor of equal rights for women, right?

It also gives a distorted picture about the parties. If we only look at the five who voted against it and go from there to bash the DCCC, it ignores the fact that the reason this passed is because the democrats are in control. Recall that John McCain opposed this legislation during the campaign and that the republicans nearly all voted against it.

Which reminds me, what about the three republicans who voted for it? What's up with them? That's good to think about as well.

[southernyankeebelle]

36. I am surprised by your surprise

I am willing to bet those 5 are blue dog democratics in southern leaning states.

[Blue_In_AK]

37. Is it true that Don Young was one of the Republicans

who voted in favor? I think I read that somewhere this morning, and I was surprised that he did something right.