Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Should tobacco be regulated under the FDA

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
 
Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 04:12 PM
Original message
Should tobacco be regulated under the FDA
Republicans have consistently blocked any measures to add tobacco to FDA's jurisdiction but now Democrats have a substantial Majority that it just might come to pass. Is there any reason it should not pass?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 04:16 PM
Response to Original message
1. I don't know. I hope it does. It kills.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 05:25 PM
Response to Reply #1
14. So does breathing...
... and eating... and drinking... and walking.... and driving... and etc., etc., etc.....

Let's regulate EVERYTHING!!!


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 05:28 PM
Response to Reply #14
17. sigh
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 05:40 PM
Response to Reply #17
21. OMG!!! Sighing can kill too!!!
:hi:

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
NaturalHigh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 04:20 PM
Response to Original message
2. No.
I'm a smoker, and I'm with it enough to know that it's bad for me. Most smokers know it's bad for them, will reduce their life expectancy, and can cause them to get some pretty bad health conditions. We don't need the government to somehow "regulate" it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 04:21 PM
Response to Original message
3. yes: but only if marijuana is put in a less restricted class.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 04:27 PM
Response to Original message
4. Only interstate commerce in tobacco should be regulated
You should be able to grow your own and exchange it locally without any .gov intervention.

(Bracing for lively discussion of Wickard v. Filburn.)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 04:40 PM
Response to Original message
5. They'll have to amend the constitution
unless they manage to get around it by saying that combination tobacco products (which is what any flavored or otherwise "enhanced" tobacco product is) comes under FDA jurisdiction for the additives, alone.

There's so much added junk in cigarettes and some pipe and chewing products that oversight is needed somewhere.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 05:26 PM
Response to Reply #5
15. Nicotine itself has long been manipulated by tobacco companies.
That came out in the state suits against the companies. Nicotine is exceedingly addictive, which is why the companies manipulate its concentrations in their products. Nicotine is thus the drug that should be FDA regulated.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 04:41 PM
Response to Original message
6. No,
no plants should be regulated.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 04:45 PM
Response to Reply #6
8. Damn straight!
Who cares if folks die because of e. coli contamination in spinach? The FDA shouldn't be sticking its nose into farms and their cultivation methods! The free market will sort out the bad farmers from the good ones, and people should hire their own food tasters if they want to be sure of wholesome produce.

It's a no brainer!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-09 12:04 AM
Response to Reply #8
24. I was thinking more of bans
Edited on Wed Jan-14-09 12:07 AM by Mojorabbit
I am sick of govt making plants illegal or putting controls on them. I am all for regulation of foodstuffs.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 05:27 PM
Response to Reply #6
16. Yes, products, including food, should be and generally are regulated.
And the FDA is the appropriate agency (once the Obama Administration cleans up the mess the Bushistas have made there, as everywhere in the federal government).
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 04:44 PM
Response to Original message
7. With the End Result Being What?
"Safer" tobacco?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 05:15 PM
Response to Reply #7
10. Yes, actually. Tobacco Additives.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 05:21 PM
Response to Reply #10
12. Honestly I don't have much of a problem with that
I've grown my own before and it was the best ever but the curing process is a pain in the ass to roll a few smokes and I did it more to see if I could. I'm a casual/light smoker or a non-smoker depending on what day it is.

But, having seen the OPs views on smoking in the past, I'm left suspecting that this would be a first step in a full ban.

As was pointed out down-thread, tobacco is already regulated by the ATF, so why the need to move it under a different federal umbrella?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 05:34 PM
Response to Reply #12
19. I fear you're right about it being a first step.
I'd prefer it get oversight by FDA in the same way a new food additive might, that tobacco companies be required to show that the additives when burned and inhaled are not unhealthy.
I suspect lots of money has been spent to prevent this.
It seems a no-brainer, you can't just put, say, acetoxydihydrotheaspirane, into peanut butter and call it automatically OK.

Or, actually you can, tobacco companies claim it's used as a food additive so must be OK. (but what about burning it and inhaling the products of combustion?)

http://tobaccodocuments.org/profiles/additives/acetoxydihydrotheaspirane.html

ATF only regulates distribution, things like evading state taxes, not health related matters.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 05:14 PM
Response to Original message
9. It's already regulated.
Tobacco's regulated, along with alcohol and weapons, by the ATF.

There's something to be said about moving the T and the F under the umbrella of the FDA.

Just so long as it's regulated (limit the fire hazards, the hazards of second-hand smoke & such), and people get fair warning about the health hazards, but it's not banned (as prohibition does not work,) why not?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 05:15 PM
Response to Reply #9
11. It's sale and distribution is regulated (taxes vary by state) but not the chemicals.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 05:23 PM
Response to Original message
13. Yes, it should. Nicotine has for decades been manipulated by cigarette producers.
This makes it a drug, subject to FDA regulation. That was going to occur under Clinton when the GOP-led Congress changed the rules to prevent it. The Dems are finally in a position to restore the old rules -- which should allow nicotine to be regulated as a drug.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 05:33 PM
Response to Original message
18. No
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 05:36 PM
Response to Original message
20. YES nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 05:41 PM
Response to Original message
22. Yes
n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
High Plains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 05:59 PM
Response to Original message
23. That would be another step toward tobacco prohibition, so no.
Prohibiting substances doesn't seem to work too well; too many unintended consequences.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-09 12:08 AM
Response to Original message
25. Anything that leads to smokers being upset is something I will happily embrace. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Sun May 05th 2024, 10:05 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC