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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-09 02:08 PM
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Buwahahaha, Thom Hartmann called out Richard Perle for lying to him on the radio.
Edited on Wed Jan-14-09 02:22 PM by Cleita
He asked him about the following letter sent to then President Clinton in 1998, in which he was one of the signers along with a rogues gallery of recognizable names, urging him to use military action against Iraq. Richard Perle denied it flatly saying no he didn't. What he did urge was helping rebels within Iraq to do so. Here is the letter.

January 26, 1998

The Honorable William J. Clinton
President of the United States
Washington, DC

Dear Mr. President:

We are writing you because we are convinced that current American policy toward Iraq is not succeeding, and that we may soon face a threat in the Middle East more serious than any we have known since the end of the Cold War. In your upcoming State of the Union Address, you have an opportunity to chart a clear and determined course for meeting this threat. We urge you to seize that opportunity, and to enunciate a new strategy that would secure the interests of the U.S. and our friends and allies around the world. That strategy should aim, above all, at the removal of Saddam Hussein’s regime from power. We stand ready to offer our full support in this difficult but necessary endeavor.

The policy of “containment” of Saddam Hussein has been steadily eroding over the past several months. As recent events have demonstrated, we can no longer depend on our partners in the Gulf War coalition to continue to uphold the sanctions or to punish Saddam when he blocks or evades UN inspections. Our ability to ensure that Saddam Hussein is not producing weapons of mass destruction, therefore, has substantially diminished. Even if full inspections were eventually to resume, which now seems highly unlikely, experience has shown that it is difficult if not impossible to monitor Iraq’s chemical and biological weapons production. The lengthy period during which the inspectors will have been unable to enter many Iraqi facilities has made it even less likely that they will be able to uncover all of Saddam’s secrets. As a result, in the not-too-distant future we will be unable to determine with any reasonable level of confidence whether Iraq does or does not possess such weapons.

Such uncertainty will, by itself, have a seriously destabilizing effect on the entire Middle East. It hardly needs to be added that if Saddam does acquire the capability to deliver weapons of mass destruction, as he is almost certain to do if we continue along the present course, the safety of American troops in the region, of our friends and allies like Israel and the moderate Arab states, and a significant portion of the world’s supply of oil will all be put at hazard. As you have rightly declared, Mr. President, the security of the world in the first part of the 21st century will be determined largely by how we handle this threat.

Given the magnitude of the threat, the current policy, which depends for its success upon the steadfastness of our coalition partners and upon the cooperation of Saddam Hussein, is dangerously inadequate. The only acceptable strategy is one that eliminates the possibility that Iraq will be able to use or threaten to use weapons of mass destruction. In the near term, this means a willingness to undertake military action as diplomacy is clearly failing. In the long term, it means removing Saddam Hussein and his regime from power. That now needs to become the aim of American foreign policy.

We urge you to articulate this aim, and to turn your Administration's attention to implementing a strategy for removing Saddam's regime from power. This will require a full complement of diplomatic, political and military efforts. Although we are fully aware of the dangers and difficulties in implementing this policy, we believe the dangers of failing to do so are far greater. We believe the U.S. has the authority under existing UN resolutions to take the necessary steps, including military steps, to protect our vital interests in the Gulf. In any case, American policy cannot continue to be crippled by a misguided insistence on unanimity in the UN Security Council.

We urge you to act decisively. If you act now to end the threat of weapons of mass destruction against the U.S. or its allies, you will be acting in the most fundamental national security interests of the country. If we accept a course of weakness and drift, we put our interests and our future at risk.

Sincerely,


Elliott Abrams Richard L. Armitage William J. Bennett

Jeffrey Bergner John Bolton Paula Dobriansky

Francis Fukuyama Robert Kagan Zalmay Khalilzad

William Kristol Richard Perle Peter W. Rodman

Donald Rumsfeld William Schneider, Jr. Vin Weber

Paul Wolfowitz R. James Woolsey Robert B. Zoellick


http://www.newamericancentury.org/iraqclintonletter.htm

Thom Hartmann called him out for lying to his face and read the letter on air. Way to go Thom. These psychopaths need to be exposed by coast to coast media every chance there is.


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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-09 02:10 PM
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1. there is so much evidence that Perle was the architect of this
horrendous invasion.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-09 02:19 PM
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2. Doesn't Michael Moore point an accusatory finger at him in
"Fahrenheit 9-11"?
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-09 02:51 PM
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3. this is why i love the guy.
he gets them on his show, and he just digs his teeth in. that they continue to show up shows just how stupid and vain they are.
go thom. i will have to turn on the radio and catch it. he comes on here in an hour.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-09 03:02 PM
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4. Listen through the break. At first Perle surprises him with the lie.
Edited on Wed Jan-14-09 03:06 PM by Cleita
When he comes back from the break he says although it's against his policy to talk about a guest once they are no longer on the air that because Perle blatantly lied to him that he had to say something. He didn't actually have the letter in front of him at the time Perle was on, but then he had it and said he knew he had read the part about military action many times before, so he read it on the air and told the listener to decide for themselves.
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-09 04:44 PM
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5. Good for Thom.
I'll listen to the podcast tonight.
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Stevepol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-09 06:02 PM
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6. I just saw Perle on a panel on C-Span, a day or two ago.
I'm pretty sure he said in introducing himself or his first comment that he had always been a member of one wing of the Democratic Party.

I think he and Bolton, the former UN ambassador, are both certifiably insane.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-09 07:10 PM
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7. IMHO ever signer on that letter is a sociopath. n/t
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