Okay, Dems are in charge, why are we still in Iraq?

[BobRossi]

Why are we letting the Dems off easy, it's time to push to get the hell out of Iraq and Afghanistan. We have wasted enough lives and dollars on these futile wars. There is nothing left to 'win'.

[tekisui]

1. The plan the get out of Iraq in 16 months is coming.

Obama is standing up to the brass on that one. It can't happen overnight.

However, in Afghanistan, we are going to 'surge'. Escalating with nearly double the troops, just as other countries are leaving, as well as more engagement of the militants and cross border attacks in Pakistan. Don't expect any quick action on getting out of Afghanistan.

[unhappycamper]

3. It took the Russians nine years to get out of Afghanistan.

The parallels between Afghanistan and Vietnam are scary.

[tekisui]

4. From iCasualties.org,

Year US Other Total
2009 11 8 19
2008 155 139 294
2007 117 115 232
2006 98 93 191
2005 99 31 130
2004 52 6 58
2003 48 9 57
2002 49 20 69
2001 12 0 12
Total 641 421 1062

http://icasualties.org/oef/

The steady increase of US deaths is troubling. And, yesterday, Biden warns us to brace for an 'up-tick' in US deaths. It has been a steady 'up-tick' for 5 years. This is an escalation and nothing more.

[mmonk]

5. Implosion will force our hand at some point.

[BobRossi]

10. So the Dems get a free pass?

Got it.

[tekisui]

12. I didn't say that.

They are getting us out of Iraq. That is a good thing.

They are fucking up in Afghanistan, and should be pressured to end it.

Got it?

[Marrah_G]

15. Idiot.

[mmonk]

17. For some, yes.

[annabanana]

33. Newt?. . . .. n/t

[fjc]

2. What. Obama' been in office a week? Give me a break.

[TommyO]

6. It's been less than a week since Obama has been in office

Do you really think it's possible to undo eight years of damage in the five full days he's been in office?

[DainBramaged]

8. I have a very large brick wall you will get a better response from

Actually 14 years of damage counting the Contract with America in 1994 through the election this year.

[TommyO]

21. You're right on both counts, it does go back to Newt.

:banghead:

There, that feels better!

[cali]

7. bwahahahaha. Why aren't we already out of Iraq, damnit??!!!!

Obama's been prez for nearly a whole week!!! All our troops and equipment should have been home days ago!!!

And sorry, we won't be leaving Afghanistan. Obama made that clear during the campaign and transition period.

[stray cat]

9. Obama wasn't really sent by his father Jiral to save us - no superpowers

so the responsible withdrawal he promised will not be performed by a magic wand.

[KharmaTrain]

11. You Just Don't Move 150,000 Troops Overnight...

Ya gonna get 'em all plane tickets? And to where?

Sheesh...President Obama's inherited a real mess that he's just starting to get a handle on. The costs...in lives, in a risk to our image and security and in hard dollars all but dictate a withdrawl...we can't afford to play world's policeman...but we need to do it without jeopardizing those troops.

Remember, we've gone 8 years with almost no diplomatic presence...restoring ties will allow for this withdrawl to happen sooner rather than later and to make sure our troops go out on their terms...not having to shoot their way out.

[mucifer]

13. about a thrid of the troops will be going to Afghanistan. It's gonna be ugly.

[Marrah_G]

14. IT'S BEEN A WEEK----- A WEEK !!!!!

Jesus H Fucking Christ.

A WEEK.

Do you have any clue what a moran you sound like?

[BlooInBloo]

16. Because Obama's plan to betray all of humanity has not yet reached fruition.

[liberal N proud]

18. Oh and the economy is still in the toilet

Maybe we should start the impeachment proceedings now?

:sarcasm:

FOR GODS SAKE!

[BobRossi]

19. Maybe we should focus on it.

And not on wars that cannot be won.

[liberal N proud]

22. I think you missed the point

[Gman]

20. The Pottery Barn rule still applies here

we broke it, we own it.

[Orsino]

23. They're afraid to make *'s admission of failure for him.

They let him escape without having to face the consequences, and now they own it. Republicans will be able to say that Dems lost the war, and the MSM will assist.

[spanone]

24. President Obama has been in office five days for crissake.

[TheCowsCameHome]

25. Well, nobody works weekends, for one thing.

Sheesh..............

[H2O Man]

26. And why is it

still cold in the northeast?

[Marrah_G]

27. I know- It should be in the 70's at least

I am sick of the cold.

OBAMA NEEDS TO MAKE IT WARM--- RIGHT F'N NOW @!!!@!@!@

[cali]

29. -22 here. It's a frickin' outrage!!

[blindpig]

28. Maybe 'cause the Democratic Party ain't what people think it is.

Maybe it is not the less warlike party.

Maybe it ain't the 'party of the people'.

Maybe we've got little say in the matter.

Maybe we've been fooled again.

[Iggo]

30. Because the slower we retreat...

...the less the people in charge will feel like pussies.

I suspect that the people getting shot at may be of the opinion that if we're leaving, we should leave. But I could be wrong.

[annabanana]

31. Karl? Is that you? . . . . n/t

[ThomWV]

32. Because it will take more than 6 days to get out - once you include the planning.

What do you think will happen? Do you think Obama will send an E-mail to every soldier telling them to come home by the best way they can find and to be here before next friday?

There is planning to do, materials and equipment to bring home, soldiers to be transported and many a back to be covered as we leave. This does not happen in a week, or a month, and maybe not even in a year.

[Odin2005]

36. Don't expect sense out of the naive pacifist types, they don;t have any. n/t

[ThomWV]

37. I have great respect for their intent, and much agreement too, however realism rules

Only an electron can move from one place to another without having ever been inbetween. The rest of us move more slowly.

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

34. Because we haven't invented teleportation yet?

Uh... WTF?

[Odin2005]

35. Oh jeez, the troops are being pulled out of Iraq over the course of the year.

And we need to be sending more troops to Afganistan. I wan't the Taliban crushed.

Ugh, If this is how the Naive Pacifist Types are going to behave over the next 8 years I'm gonna loose my mind. :banghead:

[Mugu]

38. 'Tis better to be silent and be thought a fool,

than to speak and remove all doubt.