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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 06:17 PM
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Has anybody here ever used open courseware?
And if so, what was your experience with it?
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 06:33 PM
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1. I use quite a bit in my own course designs...
Edited on Mon Jan-26-09 06:36 PM by mike_c
...and pay forward by making the online components of my courses open for guest access-- my university does not publish open courseware in the strict sense, so the best I can do is just take off the access restrictions.

Interestingly, the MIT open courseware site (which has mixed quality, IMO, at least in biology) focuses largely on large format lectures from previous years while at least some departments at MIT have abandoned those as poor practices in favor of extensive small-group collaborative learning (I believe the physics dept has done so across their entire curriculum). This is becoming increasingly common (and it should, IMO).

When MIT published their courses publicly, they said that they did so because they realized that the value of an MIT education was not the content of the courses, but the interaction with MIT professors inside and outside the classroom. That would seem to argue that the open courses are of limited educational value. Think of it this way-- there is a strong distance learning movement on campus these days, but nearly everyone recognizes that simply videoing lectures and posting them online with the course syllabus and assignments is not the best way to translate the educational experience from the classroom to the internet. Good distance learning course design focuses on other ways to obtain information and interact with classmates and teachers. Most open courseware I've seen does not meet those good distance learning standards yet.

On the other hand, they're better than nothing. Get the text and listen to the posted lectures, do the readings and so on-- you'll HAVE to learn something. You might learn a LOT-- if you invest the effort and are committed to doing more than just running your eyes over the words and letting the videos flicker in the background of your awareness. All learning occurs within your own nervous system in the end. It's just that there are some ways of getting information there that work better than others.

Also, note that learning CONTENT is only the lowest level of every taxomomy of learning that I'm aware of. Connecting learning to prior knowledge, learning to apply knowledge, learning critical thinking, collaborative skills, and so on are all equally important-- some of us argue that they're MORE important-- and they're all social activities to some degree or another. Good distance learning addresses that issue. There is no reason that Open Courseware should not, but much that I've seen does a mediocre job of supporting higher learning, at best.
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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 06:54 PM
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2. I know all about your university Mike, heh heh
Proud Humboldt State graduate here, class of 2003, journalism department. Yeah, I understand the value of getting an education in person, but I already have 2 degrees, one in Journalism and the other in Information Technology.

Let's just say that I have an idea for an invention, and I want to learn how to build it. I'm not really looking for the college experience as I've already done that twice. I understand you're not talking about the college experience in the social sense, but rather the more holistic approach to learning that I agree with you is a very valuable experience. But as I said, Been there, done that. Both time and money are serious factors for me right now, so I really can't afford to fork over the dough on yet another college education. Plus, I'm tired of taking tests. LOL.

Do know anything about MIT's open courseware when it comes to chemistry or Mechanical Engineering?



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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 07:48 PM
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5. LOL-- that's so cool....
We probably passed one another on campus for a couple of years!

Anyway, no-- I don't know anything about their chem or mech. eng. courseware-- all my experience is with their various biology (and allied) courses.
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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 10:59 PM
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6. If Jane Rogers is still there
Tell her Mac says hi. The one who wrote the story on the Humboldt Bay Power Plant. She'll remember. I hope. LOL.
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PowerToThePeople Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 12:04 AM
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7. I am a mechanical engineering grad
and several years ago I downloaded a few of their (MIT's) courses. Once you have the mathematical background to understand, they are usefull. But I noticed alot of times the most interesting chapters/lectures were not included in the opencourse. But, as I said, it was several years ago, this may have changed.
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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 02:08 PM
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10. Please see post #8
I meant for that response to be to you.
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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 06:56 PM
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3. Kick
because I'm curious.
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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 02:04 PM
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8. What type of mathematical background would you say is necessary?
I took Nature of Mathematics when I was in college, which was the class for people that wanted nothing to do with math but needed to fulfill that pesky math requirement. My algebra is still pretty strong from recently re-taking it at IT school.

But trig, calculus? Nope. I'd have to learn those. I could go to a Junior College or maybe find some software, but how high would you recommend I go? Also, if there were chapters missing from the open courseware, do you think that if I supplemented the online with a texbook that it would help make up for it?
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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 02:06 PM
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9. Damn! Sorry AchtungToddler...
I meant for that response to be for PowerToThePeople. Thanks for the kick though.
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 07:11 PM
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4. I've been using it some for homeschooling my son...
It's a great program, though I feel it's way above his grade level. However, it does challenge him to read better, which helps because of his learning disability. I'm getting a pretty good education myself by using it for my son... we're learning more together.

The *only* reason I use these courses for him is because I can't afford the paid courses for high school homeschooling. I know a lot of people here are down on homeschooling, but I think it's because of the church related themes to it. I'm an atheist and teach strictly in a secular way and the program I'm signed up with didn't require a statement of faith, though it is classified as a church related school under the Jeter Memo.


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