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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 06:36 PM
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Just watched PBS newshour - editor of car and driver magazine = asshole.
"no one could have seen these new tighter mileage rules coming"
"no one will want to drive smaller fuel efficient cars"
"the auto makers can't respond this quickly"

wah wah wah wah

What happened to the spirit of this country that retooled the factories to make everything we needed to fight WWII? What happened to setting bold ambitious targets like going to the moon, before we knew how we were going to do it?

I tell ya, Republicans and Conservatives can do one thing - Complain. Their very spirit is un-American.

Obama is up against so, so much - politicians, media, lazy fat businessmen....our country has so badly lost its way.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 06:37 PM
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1. That used to be a GREAT magazine!
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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 06:38 PM
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2. May be a great mag, but they have a snivelly shiny can't do Repug as an editor
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 06:39 PM
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3. Sounds like a serious asshole!
What a douche.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 06:41 PM
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4. I agree
He was basically saying "change is impossible so go die" (smirk)

I guess there is no future.
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 06:41 PM
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5. Was it Csaba Csere on the show? n/t
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 06:43 PM
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8. Csaba Csere is maddening.
Three out of four columns by him will enrage me, but the fourth will be thoughtful and interesting.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 06:49 PM
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13. No, it was a guy named Mike DuShane
too young to be managing editor, IMO!
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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 06:53 PM
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15. Ah, yes, Mike Douche-ane. as in bag.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 07:08 PM
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19. heh--who's writing this script, Dickens?
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 06:42 PM
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6. People that are all into high performance cars (meaning fast)
will not like government rules that sacrifice that kind of performance for higher fuel efficiency and lower emissions. So I wouldn't have expected anything different from that person. But he was fairly rude in the way he stated his opinions as well. He just isn't on board with the goal of rapidly improving overall car fuel efficiency at all. He wants the free market to sort it out and all that so that people can continue to buy whatever they want. Its a new day in that war I think.
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dbonds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 06:42 PM
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7. Sounds like he selfishly wants his sports cars and luxury cars.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 07:00 PM
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17. Will a Tesla Do?
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david13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 06:43 PM
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9. Nobody
could see it coming? General Motors says this every day.
Toyota and Honda saw it coming LONG AGO and have had their products out there for years. And anybody that has one loves it.
dc
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 06:44 PM
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10. Car & Driver won't sell as well having to feature smaller cars, they think.
Same way Top Gear could only get away with it by ripping the hell out of them or having their mothers do the work.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 06:44 PM
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11. oh yeah, that guy was a stooge.
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 06:44 PM
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12. Translation:
"We thought our 'Lican butt boys could hold off efficiency improvements forever"
"All those smaller cars the foreign-based automakers sell are just a blip on the market"
"US automakers have pursued stupid as a strategy for so long they've lost the ability to respond intelligently -- so they must be allowed to continue being stupid"
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Pryderi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 06:52 PM
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14. It's that "can't do" spirit.
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hvn_nbr_2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 06:55 PM
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16. I can remember when the car companies assured us that being required to...
install seatbelts would be the end of the American auto industry. Increased costs, yanno? Same with every (really, EVERY!) fuel efficiency standard ever enacted. Funny how all the foreign car makers just put in the fucking seatbelts, and they all stayed in business.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 07:02 PM
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18. BREAKING: In response to market forces Car & Driver fires editor, renames mag: Vehicle & Operator
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SocialRealist Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 07:50 PM
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20. I have been saying this for years:
There is no social conscience in most corporations today. They can make more money be selling what people WANT, rather than what is RIGHT.

Car makers have been making bigger and bigger "status vehicles". Way more room, power, and fuel consumption than is required or even reasonable for your average driver. Huge polluters and resource hogs.

Electronics manufacturers have let quality slide so much to sell at the cheapest price, that it is actually cheaper to replace than repair most TVs, radios, DVD players, etc. They have no regard for how many of their poorly produced and frequently replaced devices end up in the local landfill.

Gun makers produce guns that have no place in a civilized society. If they had to pay for the funerals of those innocent who were killed with those guns, or pay to support the kids who lost a parent to gun violence, I bet they'd rethink what they're making.

Food manufacturers load the shelves with fattening, nutritionally lacking products. Start taxing them for all the garbage food they're producing and use it to pay for obesity-related medical costs. If the don't know what the right thing is, you'll have to tech them.

There are so many more examples, but I don't type very fast and I'd be here all night. ;-)
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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 08:10 PM
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21. You forgot the industry that just unceremoniously showed me the door - Pharma!
Another industry that has gone for profit over health.
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