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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 11:32 PM
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The Hill editors are now dictating who can and can't be HHS under Obama.
I have never seen anything like it. I really never have. Here we have the Chief of Staff who was chosen because everyone says he is an a**hole and can get stuff done....and we have these editors of The Hill saying one person can't be HHS secretary because he would not make the Republicans happy. Yes, they actually say that.

So it's okay for Democrats to brag about how much the GOP fears Rahm Emanuel, yet is it not okay to even think about considering Howard Dean for HHS because he is too partisan.

This is from last week. Some of the media have decided Howard Dean is not yet dead enough so they want to make sure he is done when they poke the fork in.

Not Howard Dean

This was actually written by The Staff of The Hill. It is an editorial. Someone on the inside is sending out talking points to let the netroots/nutroots know that their candidate of choice is out of the running.

Dean clashed with then-Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee Chairman Rahm Emanuel (Ill.) in 2006 over how to allocate DNC resources, as well as over the former Vermont governor’s “50-state strategy.”

Dean’s record as DNC chairman is impressive. Some may note that he was helped by the immensely popular Barack Obama and the GOP’s implosion, but in politics, it comes down to wins and losses. Dean won, and won big. That does not mean, however, he should be rewarded with the job of Health and Human Services (HHS) secretary.

A Dean appointment is not likely. Based on their history of working against one another, Emanuel, now White House chief of staff, must be recommending other candidates to President Obama. Moreover, Dean does not have a lot of close friends among Democratic leaders in Congress. But some on Capitol Hill, including Sen. Tom Harkin (D-Iowa), are publicly calling on Obama to tap Dean. Stranger things have happened in politics, and it appears Dean, a physician, would take the job if it were offered.

..."The HHS job requires working with both political parties, especially with healthcare reform expected to move in the 111th Congress. Dean has been firing salvos at the GOP for the last six years. Because of that, very few Republicans in Congress would want him at the negotiating table on a massive revamping of the healthcare system. The stimulus package shows that despite Obama’s commitment to bipartisanship, GOP votes are tough to come by in the Senate. Healthcare reform will be no exception.


Where have I heard that tone of being conciliatory to the Republicans in the past? Hmmm..mmm.

Then they state that Sebellius, Bredesen, and DeLauro are the ones being considered. That would be Rosa DeLauro, the close friend and wife of Stan Greenberg who provided living quarters for Rahm. That would this Phil Bredesen.

This is reminiscent of the anonymous hit pieces that started right after Dean stepped down as chairman. The media was used by anonymous cowards to damage the man who was instrumental in amazing wins in two cycles.

I guess I just find that amazing. That the media is so used for insiders to speak. I have said that I never thought Dean would be considered for the administration....I just never thought I would see 3 anonymous hit pieces in major media the day after he stepped down as chair. I never thought a major newspaper in DC would actually write an editorial lecturing that he not be picked.

It is totally amazing..



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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 11:34 PM
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1. Boy - to hear you tell the story, we've got the worst President EVER....
Thankfully, I make a point of not listening to you tell the story.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 11:35 PM
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2. Riiiiiight, and nobody in the Bush administration was partisan
:sarcasm:

The Dems have to get over this Stockholm syndrome and realize that they've WON. They don't have to please the Republicans anymore--not that they ever did have to.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 11:36 PM
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3. But many of them still THINK they have to please the Republicans.
It's been ingrained in them since the 80s.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 11:38 PM
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4. Or maybe they sort of ARE Republicans, just not as much
They like a milder form of Republican economics but not the crudity or the religious fanaticism.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 12:33 AM
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7. Their post partisanship is showing.
:D
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 02:04 PM
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8. Your statement is true. I just read it again and it hit me how true it is.
"They like a milder form of Republican economics but not the crudity or the religious fanaticism."

Yes, that milder form.
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 11:40 PM
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5. Hi. I think it's hyperbole to say they are 'dictating' anything. It's an editorial comment.
I would welcome Dean as HHS Secretary. The Hill's editorial staff has a different take.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 11:43 PM
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6. It's audacity. Of course no one here EVER uses hyperbole...
Not ever. :sarcasm:

Actually, though, it's really not exaggerating to say they are dictating. Read the hit pieces...they are messages sent after he was already out of the picture and asked not to be at the changing of the DNC guard. :shrug:

Not really hyperbole.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 02:09 PM
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9. Twisted, isn't it? Even when we WIN, we really "don't"..
I don't recall them or ANY media fussing and worrying when junior was in the WH..about what he needed to do to "please" the dems...even when we took over the majority....Our ONLY hope is to kick out even MORE repubes in '10, and get their numbers down ....waaaaay down...and THEN...kick ass and take names..and do it again in '12..

Until we have a 75-25 split, we will never be able to clean up the mess, because we always will have just enough Liebermans & Blue Dogs to make things difficult.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 02:20 PM
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10. You are right...the media never worried how Bush should please Democrats.
Nor did the Republicans ever worry about it. Love your sig picture.
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demokatgurrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 06:08 PM
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11. Dean is "too liberal".
Remember, he comes from the Democratic wing....
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 07:42 PM
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12. Always too much of something.
Too liberal, too partisan. Love how they label. :hi:
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 02:09 AM
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13. Just curious...
Has anyone seen the media actively working against any other possibles for the admin?

I haven't. It's infuriating.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 05:02 PM
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14. One good post from the msm was Eleanor Clift's post.
http://www.newsweek.com/id/183530

A whole different tone of understanding the ones involved and the situation.

Frankly I think Dean's outpouring of support from the grassroots probably hurt him with the insiders.

Clift's column was nice.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 01:48 PM
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19. What ever happens...happens.
All I know is that ALL of my support and
money and efforts will follow Dean.

He has stood for the people over the
CRAVEN behavior of the party.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 11:16 AM
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15. Another post from The Hill yesterday, making sure he's a "long shot:"
http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/dem-family-politics-blocks-dean-at-hhs-2009-02-17.html

More of the same as the other one.

Using the media to pick and choose for Obama and make sure Dean gets the message. :shrug:
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 01:35 PM
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17. Do you actually believe that the President will make his pick based on The Hill's editorials?
:shrug:
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 01:34 PM
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16. The President knows that health care reform will be a tough sell, and wants someone at HHS who
can work both sides of the aisle.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 01:43 PM
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18. You mean speak out of both sides of their mouth?
And enrich the insurance companies?

Because that is exactly what we are going to get.

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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 01:54 PM
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20. The HHS Secretary will have to push the President's plan, not the HHS Secretary's plan
Edited on Thu Feb-19-09 01:54 PM by Freddie Stubbs
The President has made it very clear that he does not want government run health care and higher taxes.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 07:44 PM
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21. The HHS Secretary will be making recommendations to the President.
I would prefer that the recommendations be
based on what is good for the people of our
country.

I trust Howard Dean to get a handle on it.
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