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Orwellian_Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-09 09:04 PM
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WTF?! Obama Administration To Subsididze Hedge Fund Industry While People Are Waiting In Food Lines?
U.S. Tries a Trillion-Dollar Key for Locked Lending
By VIKAS BAJAJ
Published: February 19, 2009

<snip>

Most banks no longer hold the loans they make, content to collect interest until the debt comes due. Instead, the loans are bundled into securities that are sold to investors, a process known as securitization.

But the securitization markets broke down last summer after investors suffered steep losses on these investments. So banks and other finance companies can no longer shift loans off their books easily, throttling their ability to lend.

The result has been a drastic contraction of the amount of credit available throughout the economy. By one estimate, as much as $1.9 trillion of lending capacity — the rough equivalent of half of all the money borrowed by businesses and consumers in 2007, before the recession struck — has been sucked out of the system.

Banking chiefs, who have come under sharp criticism for not making more loans even as they have accepted billions of taxpayer dollars to prop themselves up, say it is the markets, not the banks, that are squeezing American borrowers.

The Obama administration hopes to jump-start this crucial machinery by effectively subsidizing the profits of big private investment firms in the bond markets. The Treasury Department and the Federal Reserve plan to spend as much as $1 trillion to provide low-cost loans and guarantees to hedge funds and private equity firms that buy securities backed by consumer and business loans.



http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/20/business/20lend.html?_r=1&hp

Newly Poor Swell Lines at Food Banks


by Julie Bosman

MORRISTOWN, N.J. - Once a crutch for the most needy, food pantries have responded to the deepening recession by opening their doors to what Rosemary Gilmartin, who runs the Interfaith Food Pantry here, described as "the next layer of people" - a rapidly expanding roster of child-care workers, nurse's aides, real estate agents and secretaries facing a financial crisis for the first time.


Cindy Dreeszen and her husband Alex Orejuela and their son Matthew at the Interfaith Food Pantry in Morristown, N.J. (James Estrin/The New York Times)

Demand at food banks across the country increased by 30 percent in 2008 from the previous year, according to a survey by Feeding America, which distributes more than two billion pounds of food every year. And instead of their usual drop in customers after the holidays, many pantries in upscale suburbs this year are seeing the opposite.

Here in Morris County, one of the wealthiest counties in the country, the Interfaith pantry opened for an extra night last week to accommodate the growing crowds. Among the first-time visitors were Cindy Dreeszen and her husband, who both have steady jobs - his at a movie theater and hers at a government office - with a combined annual income of about $55,000.

But with a 17-month-old son, another baby on the way, and, as Ms. Dreeszen put it, "the cost of everything going up and up," the couple showed up in search of free groceries.

"I didn't think we'd even be allowed to come here," said Ms. Dreeszen, 41, glancing around at the shelves of fruit, whole-wheat pasta and baby food. "This is totally something that I never expected to happen, to have to resort to this."


Olga Eufracio at a Napa, Calif., food bank; she and her husband have struggled to get work lately.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/20/nyregion/20food.html?_r=1&ref=us
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-09 09:37 PM
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1. K&R n/t
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-09 09:42 PM
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2. Hedge funds = gambling casinos.
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-09 09:47 PM
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3. K&R
:kick:
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-09 09:49 PM
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4. "Fuckin-A".
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-09 10:01 PM
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5. Thanks for posting those. n/t
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-09 11:12 PM
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7. A little more on Laura Tyson to keep in mind:
Edited on Fri Feb-20-09 11:18 PM by chill_wind
December:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-sirota/maddow-busts-morgan-stanl_b_153355.html?show_comment_id=19148488

September 30:

http://www.ourfuture.org/blog-entry/2008094030/strategy-memo-turning-wall-street-giveaway-economic-rescue-all-americans

"The conflicts and corruption surrounding the bailout have even impacted internal Democratic Party deliberations. At an afternoon press conference (video here or at right), Rep. Peter DeFazio (D-OR) recounted how when progressives and Blue Dog Democrats proposed a financial industry tax to pay for the bailout, Democratic leaders sent in Laura Tyson to kill it by saying "the street wouldn't like it." According to DeFazio, Tyson was brought in "under the guise of being a former Clinton economic adviser, forgetting to tell us she's on Morgan Stanley's board of directors."


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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 12:04 AM
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8. Thanks again...
I have them bookmarked for the morning. :)
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Orwellian_Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 09:31 AM
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14. Do I say thanks for that?
This is indicative of who runs the show eh?


Hedge Fund Billionaire Pete Peterson Key Speaker At Obama “Fiscal Responsibility Summit,” Will Tell Us All Why Little Old Ladies Must Eat Cat Food
By: Jane Hamsher Wednesday February 18, 2009 5:13

After a report in the Wall Street Journal appeared indicating that Obama "met with 44 fiscally conservative 'Blue Dog' Democrats this week and gave a nod to legislation that would set up commissions to deal with long-term deficit strains," noting that "the commissions would then present plans to Congress for an up-or-down vote," it appears things moved rather swiftly.

House and Senate leadership sent word back to the White House, something subtle along the lines of "tha F*!K, are you CRAZY?"

The "fiscal responsibility" summit will still happen on February 23, but plans to empower a commission to make recommendations that are not subject to amendment by Congress have been scrapped. This will no doubt come as a blow to Wall Street robber baron Pete Peterson, who has pledged a billion dollars to loot "save" Social Security and Medicare.

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http://firedoglake.com/2009/02/18/hedge-fund-billionaire-pete-peterson-key-speaker-at-obama-fiscal-responsibility-summit-will-tell-us-all-why-little-old-ladies-must-eat-cat-food-so-social-security-can-be-saved/
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 10:08 AM
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17. There's more.


Billionaire Gasbag on Pennsylvania Avenue
By: Jane Hamsher Friday February 20, 2009 5:02 pm


Why does supreme billionaire egomaniac Pete Peterson have so much access to the White House? The NYT offers some clues:

"Asked about the balance of power between them, Mr. Geithner told the story of having gotten his last job, the presidency of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, because Peter G. Peterson, then the bank’s chairman, saw him as the one who had been “willing to say no to Larry Summers.”

You're going to be hearing a lot more about what egomaniac hedge fund billionaire Pete Peterson thinks needs to happen to the social safety net:

PETER G. PETERSON FOUNDATION AIRS FIRST NATIONAL TV AD AS PART OF $1 MILLION-PLUS AWARENESS CAMPAIGN ON FISCAL CHALLENGES FACING AMERICA



more ad campaign details:

http://firedoglake.com/2009/02/20/billionaire-gasbag-on-pennsylvania-avenue/

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/17/us/politics/17summers.html?_r=1&sq=larry%20summers&st=cse&scp=1&pagewanted=print


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Orwellian_Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 10:24 AM
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18. Great- Instead of a subpoena he gets a cute nickname
In a World Not Wholly Cooperative, Obama’s Top Economist Makes Do

By SHERYL GAY STOLBERG
Published: February 16, 2009

WASHINGTON — President Obama has a few nicknames for Lawrence H. Summers, the brash and brainy former Harvard president who, as chief White House economic adviser, is guiding him through treacherous terrain.

Sometimes, during the 30-minute briefings that Mr. Summers delivers in the Oval Office nearly every day, Mr. Obama addresses him as Professor, as in, “What do you think, Professor Summers?” Sometimes, as he did in the Roosevelt Room one recent afternoon, Mr. Obama tweaks him and his fellow policy wonks, dubbing them “the propeller-heads.”

This, senior White House officials say, is the president’s way of ribbing Mr. Summers, who is back in Washington — he served as Treasury secretary under President Bill Clinton — in the role of what his new boss calls a “thought leader.”

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http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/17/us/politics/17summers.html
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 04:12 PM
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32. Same shit, different administration-no actually some of the players are the same.
Edited on Sat Feb-21-09 04:13 PM by earth mom
:argh:
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-09 10:36 PM
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6. They will take the money and run. I expected nothing less from the Rubinites that Obama hired. (nt)
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 12:20 AM
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9. K&R
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 12:22 AM
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10. More on hedge fund subsidization:
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 09:49 AM
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15. Thank you for posting this - good stuff in here. n/t
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 11:29 AM
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23. The guy knows what he's talking about and he don't care what
party is in power. He's an equal opportunity critic of economic and fiscal policy.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 09:44 AM
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54. thanks for the link
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 03:30 AM
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11. k*r BRILLIANT POST.
:toast:
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 03:34 AM
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12. They are doing the best they can with the machine they themselves created.
Our "debt economy" needs credit to flow. Not saying I agree with it. Obama and his team are just trying to maintain the status quo. I doubt it will work. These greedy bastards just don't care anymore.
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 07:38 AM
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13. The status quo is abominable.

Always has been.The fuckers were making so much that letting a little 'trickle down' was hardly missed. Now that the insane, totally unsustainable game has come to it's periodic head guess who pays the pound of flesh?

Boom & bust cycles are endemic to capitalism, ain't no extraordinary outrage, best to trash the whole game.
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 09:58 AM
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16. This article explains the boom/bust cycle really well -
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 04:13 PM
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33. I agree. nt
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Baby Snooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 05:32 PM
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36. Adding more debt to debt only creates more debt...
Edited on Sat Feb-21-09 05:34 PM by Baby Snooks
But of course the debt will be paid off by the taxpayers so what the hell, you know? The only people who matter are the haves and have-mores who are also known as the stole-mores. Who like perverted versions of Robin Hoods have stolen from the poor and given to the politicians.

I would have rather have had John McCain. At least there would have been no surprises. And no Clintons. Who no doubt are behind much of this "maintaining the status quo" simply because doing so ensures more money in their back pockets. And who no doubt are explaining to the Obamas how nice retirement can be if you "maintain the status quo."

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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 10:29 AM
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19. Food Lines? We havent closed those Socialist handouts yet?
If they are like the ones around me, they will run out of food anyway.

News Flash: Obama is a politician/now President and he lives in Washington DC. You didnt expect a change in core values overnight did you?
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 11:17 AM
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22. what we have in place is "socialist handouts" to the obsenely rich...
at the expense of the taxpayers.

this is just total crookery.

i'm so pissed.

:grr: :grr:
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 11:42 AM
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24. are you ready for a revolt? are you ready to smash things?
or are you so tired from working too many hours a day (if you're lucky) so that when you come home at night it's all that you can do to make dinner, watch two hours of tv, and then head to bed?

The problem is that too many of us are too tired, weak, hungry (or over fed) and pacified by distractions (ooo, American Idol is coming on, or is it Survivor, or Lost) to ever DO anything about our current state of affairs.
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 10:33 AM
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20. K & R
:kick:
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 11:13 AM
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21. this is the worst sort of trickle down economics!
i'm just SPEECHLESS.

what total CROOKERY.

absolutely disgusting.

:wtf:
:wtf:

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anaxarchos Donating Member (963 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 12:49 PM
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25. What can be said about this?
The hedge funds, the private equity funds, and the rest are the essential product of the "booms" of two decades ago and also the core engines for creating the ever shifting bubbles of the present day. They are the first things that should be banned - made impossible, with only such thought as is required to unravel them. Instead, the discussion is about how to "save" them. They already defy national controls of any type. Putting aside all thought of fairness or justice, no result can come from this except for the NEXT "bust"...

This is what passes for "populism with a pragmatic face" these days. It is cold-blooded Roman shit, with a collateralized guarantee of a Roman outcome.
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HooptieWagon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 12:54 PM
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26. OK, banks are essential, the auto industry is somewhat essential,
but I don't see hedge funds as being essential to the US. Unless I'm really missing something, I say let the hedge funds go belly up. They gambled money, if they lost it - tough.
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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 03:44 PM
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28. Hedge funds are the scum
on the froth on the surface of the bubble.

Ghost Dog dixit.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 05:34 PM
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37. What about the who-knows-how-many pensions and 401(k) programs invested in them?
Edited on Sat Feb-21-09 05:34 PM by Roland99
I am certainly no fan of helping those who got us into this mess but there are millions of Americans that would be affected terribly if all banks/hedge funds/etc. were left to just fail.
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 08:40 PM
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41. Nobody is saying banks should fail. Your deposits are insured up to 100K,
and 250K temporarily through 2009.

Now, investment banks are another story. If you chose to go that route it's a different story. They are no better than casinos, and never have been. You cannot claim to not know that, because every time you trade you click a box saying that you understand the funds are not guaranteed.

I believe the government's responsibility is to back up the banks as insured by the FDIC, and to administer Social Security. Past that I have no interest in watching rich people loot everyone else's tax money because they went out and gambled.
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Two Americas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 03:12 AM
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43. give the people the money then
You don't give robbers more money in the hope that they may return some of it some day.

Why do we accept being held hostage like this? This idea that the super wealthy must be helped or else the rest of us will suffer is extortion.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 06:14 PM
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48. I don't think you got what I was saying. Whose money do you think is invested in those things?
401(k)s, pensions.

That *is* the peoples' money.
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Two Americas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 08:58 PM
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50. right
So take it back, and don't give the people who mismanaged it any more of it.
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 02:41 PM
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27. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. n/t
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Maven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 03:57 PM
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29. Obama's biggest corporate donors were investment banks.
What did anyone expect?

As a side note, I don't want to sound insensitive, but this part of the second article stuck out at me:

"Among the first-time visitors were Cindy Dreeszen and her husband, who both have steady jobs - his at a movie theater and hers at a government office - with a combined annual income of about $55,000.

But with a 17-month-old son, another baby on the way,
and, as Ms. Dreeszen put it, "the cost of everything going up and up," the couple showed up in search of free groceries."

These two have a combined income of only $55,000, they can't afford to feed themselves and the child they have, and they're still having a second child?
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 12:48 PM
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46. gee... i only 'make' somewhere below $10,000.
how can it be that i can still type on this keyboard? :shrug:

i must go out now to spot the bridge where i'll sleep under tonight...
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BelgianMadCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 03:58 PM
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30. Required, but sad, reading. Bookmarked, kicked and recommended.
Bailing out a failing and failed system, bestowing cash on huge corporations when you know cash will be KKKing come the depression...

And we all sit and watch. I am beyond puzzled.
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DollyM Donating Member (837 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 04:01 PM
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31. food pantry users need to be responsible
I'm sorry but I dont think that two people that make 55 thousand dollars should be using the food pantry. If they think they are hurting, think about the people who do not have jobs at all, who are getting by on unemployment or have ran out of unemployment. Food pantries have traditionally been a no questions asked situation but I have seen a rise in people using it that shouldn't. These people need to start looking at how they can cut expenses rather than going to a food pantry and using food intended for people who are unemployed and really destitute. I would bet they both drive nice cars, have a nice home, have cable tv, telephone, cell phone, etc. and are still whining about how they can't make ends meet. If they wanted to do a story about the "next layer" of those using the food pantry it should be those who lost good jobs and can't find new ones and who have cut back their life style. Yes, I am a little sensitive about this because we fall in that category. We have Master's degrees and can't find jobs because we are both older. My husband is now 55 years old and lost his job over a year ago and I havent been able to find work at all. We help at the food pantry and it is getting disgusting to see some of the people who are coming through to get free groceries. I'ts just wrong. Food pantries are going to have to start requiring some standards of income because they are streched too tight as it is and the poor are going to get even poorer with people who are making 55 thousands a year using it.
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Baby Snooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 05:45 PM
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38. I resent it...
I have had to depend on the food pantries. In most cases, you are allowed six visits over a three-month period at which time you have to be "re-qualified" by most of the food pantries and the agencies, most of them churches, which run them. You used to be able to get enough food to get you through two weeks or longer. So you had some guarantee of food for three months. Now you are lucky if you get enough food for one week. So you have to depend on several food pantries which is difficult in some areas because you are "zoned" by your zip code. The reason why there is less food is because there is less food being donated, less money being donated to allow the food pantries to buy the food from the food banks, and apparently because of people who have jobs and incomes but don't know how to budget and so instead of cutting back on renting videos from Blockbuster and buying the beer and wine and other "necessities" decide to simply supplement their food budget by "shopping" at the food pantries.

Things are getting bad for a growing number of Americans and many are having to supplement their food budget with the food pantries. But I have a hard time believing a couple with a combined income of $55,000 need to do so. And they are taking food from people who will not have it because of them. And I resent it.
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Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 04:26 PM
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34. Absolutely NOT!
Who the hell are these people? I thought we'd gotten rid of the crooks (most of them, anyway) when the boy king left town. This is bullshit.
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 05:10 PM
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35. Banks vs. Hedge Funds - now they turn on each other
Looks like the banks are hunkering down and willing to hang the hedge funds out to dry. Article in Reuters today:

BofA's investment bank "fun" may be done for good

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Bank of America Corp (BAC.N) Chief Executive Kenneth Lewis told investors in September he was pleased to acquire Merrill Lynch & Co's "world-class" investment bank -- but as losses there mount, he may just let that key part of its business wither.

Now that the government has a taken a large stake in the Charlotte, North Carolina-based bank, investment banking may not be as attractive.

"Regulatory requirements are going to dramatically reduce the amount of risk that Bank of America is allowed to take," said Jaime Peters, an analyst at Morningstar Inc in Chicago.

Risk-taking is central to proprietary trading and helped drive the large profits at banks, including Merrill, in recent years.

"Since Bank of America is an at least partly nationalized entity, the risks and the capital required to operate a gigantic bulge-bracket (investment) bank may be viewed with disfavor by the largest stockholder -- now Uncle Sam," said George Ball, chairman of the Sanders Morris Harris Group in Houston, an investment firm with about $8.6 billion in assets.

B of A, which paid more for Merrill than the bank's current entire market capitalization, is now more attracted to wealth management, Merrill's other large business, which is less capital intensive than investment banking because it does not involve lending to finance deals and companies.

Lewis' new found interest in investment banking surprised some who remembered his famous statement in October 2007 that he had had "all the fun I can stand in investment banking."

(read entire article at: http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE51J6QD20090221)
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Orwellian_Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 06:36 PM
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39. From article
And then of course there's the fact that, when he announced the takeover in happier times, Lewis called Merrill's 16,600 army of financial advisers -- not the investment bank -- its "crown jewel."
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antimatter98 Donating Member (537 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 08:05 PM
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40. What you see is what you get re: Obama's strategy. All about Wall Street, not about citizens.
Those who voted for Obama thinking, believing that he would be a people's president
are sure to be increasingly disappointed as more and more evidence comes in that
what matters to the Obama administration is: Wall Street, the banks, and corporate power.

Pinch pennies when it comes to helping citizens, but just open the valves all the way
for Wall Street, the banks, and corporations.

This is very hard to take, but it's true, as coming months will show.

The question is, when will enough Americans figure it out, and take action, because
that is what it will take to put a stop to the looting and favoritism we're seeing
toward banks and the investment houses.

Good luck.
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whathappened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 08:43 PM
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42. where are we headed
i had such hopes that we would have a change after the election , it is dieing by the day for me , i see not much help going to the poor of this country , middle class is going no where but down hill , rich won't turn lose of any of there money , wake me up when when it is time to take to the streets
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:55 AM
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45.  I voted for obama only because I had to, because the real "people's president" was marginalized
and ridiculed. Kucinich was my choice, but Obama and Clinton were who we had to vote for, both sides of the same coin. I came grudgingly and kicking and screaming but voted for Obama in the primaries and in the GE. But he lost my support a while back because of his idiotic cabinet picks (with nary a progressive--the ones who worked to get him elected--but plenty of RW assholes like Gregg), pandering and caving to repukes, ramping up of "faith-based" bullshit, refusal to eliminate renditions, kicking bushco's war crimes and treason under the rug with the pretense of "looking forward," maintaining bushco's position in "trials" of Gitmo prisoners, retention of a majority of bushco attorneys in the justice dept., and willing participation in the great handover of the people's money to the Wall St. robbers.

I'm tired of writing him angry letters. He is either very badly advised, totally naive, or very well paid for his complicity in war crimes and plunder.

OBAMA IS A TROJAN HORSE.
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 08:21 AM
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52. You are correct about the Trojan Horse... I supported him until FISA.
Then I started digging deeper. He is not on our side.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 08:32 AM
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53. No kidding.
:(
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 09:13 PM
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58. Welcome to DU
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Two Americas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 03:13 AM
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44. kick n/t
...
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maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 02:52 PM
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47. Kick, wish I could rec. nt.
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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 06:53 PM
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49. People waiting in food lines don't contribute to campaigns.
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 07:29 AM
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51. Kick n/t
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maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 09:01 PM
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55. Kicking while its still up
worth it if one more reads it...
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 09:08 PM
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56. Kick
Kick

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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 09:12 PM
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57. Where is the Obamarage!!?
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 09:15 PM
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59. PUMA! Traitor1!1
:)
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 09:38 PM
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60. CAP HILL REPRESENT!!!
:)
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