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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 08:03 PM
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Holy Shite - the anthrax does not match
Edited on Thu Feb-26-09 08:03 PM by malaise
the anthrax in the poor vilified dead scientist's flask. coming up on KO.

He's skewering CPAC.

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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 08:07 PM
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1. Did we ever have any doubt that it wouldn't match?
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 08:11 PM
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5. No - here's a link
http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/02/26/hey-fbi-who-put-the-tin-in-your-anthrax/

<snip>
Last we heard from the FBI's not-so-smoking gun in the anthrax case, USAMRIID admitted that they had no idea what kind of flasks of anthrax and other microbes its scientists had hidden around their labs, basically shredding the FBI's claim that the anthrax used in the attacks on Congress and the Press could only have come from Bruce Ivins' flask.

Now, we learn that the supposedly exact match between Ivins' anthrax and that used in the attacks was not so close. (h/t fatster)

At a biodefence meeting on 24 February, Joseph Michael, a materials scientist at Sandia National Laboratories in Albuquerque, New Mexico, presented analyses of three letters sent to the New York Post and to the offices of Senators Tom Daschle and Patrick Leahy. Spores from two of those show a distinct chemical signature that includes silicon, oxygen, iron, and tin; the third letter had silicon, oxygen, iron and possibly also tin, says Michael. Bacteria from Ivins' RMR-1029 flask did not contain any of those four elements.

Two cultures of the same anthrax strain grown using similar processes — one from Ivins' lab, the other from a US Army facility in Utah — showed the silicon-oxygen signature but did not contain tin or iron. Michael presented the analyses at the American Society for Microbiology's Biodefense and Emerging Diseases Research Meeting in Baltimore, Maryland.
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DoctorMyEyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 08:08 PM
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2. Surprising.... not
I just said to my husband that the whole "blame the conveniently dead guy" reminded me of that scene from Schindler's List where the Nazis are asking the kid who did something and the kid points to the newly dead guy.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 08:08 PM
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3. Shocked!!! I am shocked!!!!!
Not.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 08:09 PM
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4. Of course it doesn't. And there was never one flask. n/t
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 08:13 PM
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6. Let Leahy get his Truth Commission and start with this.
The rest will follow - and it won't be long before there are prosecutions, as well as testimony under immunity.
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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 08:24 PM
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7. K & R! I'm glad Keith is covering this!
:kick:
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 08:25 PM
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8. Perhaps they should check Cheney's old locker......
:tinfoilhat:


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chollybocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 08:31 PM
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9. If the flask don't fit, you must acquit.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 09:04 PM
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11. Duzy
:rofl:

The only problem is that they drove a man to his grave.
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chollybocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 09:14 PM
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14. Indeed. The whole thing sucks to high hell.
I hope Cheney lives long enough to suffer his fate.
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Ardent15 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 08:59 PM
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10. It was a right-wing nutjob who wanted to intimidate Democratic Senators...
...into supporting the President.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 09:05 PM
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12. A right wing nut job may have sent it
but I'm pretty sure he was taking orders from above.
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Ardent15 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 09:06 PM
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13. Hopefully, the truth will come out
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