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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 09:43 PM
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GOP rewards its leaders well. Riches to Leader Rush and protection for Rove. Dems...not so much.
Edited on Sat Feb-28-09 09:57 PM by madfloridian
Today it was verified that Rush Limbaugh is worthy of much CNN air time. It gave credibility to the idea that he is in effect the leader of the Republican Party.

His new contract this year is 38 million a year according to Barbara Walters in the video.

38 million a year!? That shows the love and respect that the Republicans have for him, and he is duly rewarded.

He owns 5 homes in Palm Beach, 6 cars about half a million each.

“ANTICIPATING A QUESTION,” Limbaugh said when we pulled into the garage of his secluded beachfront mansion in Palm Beach, “why do I have so many cars?”

I hadn’t actually been wondering that. Very rich people tend not to stint on transportation. For example, we drove to the house from the studio, Limbaugh at the wheel, in a black Maybach 57S, which runs around $450,000 fully loaded. He had half a dozen similar rides on his estate.

“I have these cars for two reasons,” Limbaugh said. “First, they are for the use of my guests. And two, I happen to love fine automobiles.”

He also loves space. There are five homes — all of them his — on the property. The big house is 24,000 square feet. Limbaugh lives there with a cat. He’s been married three times but has no children.


I don't know about the finances of Karl Rove, but I know he is probably the most protected SOB on the planet. Even our Democrats are hesitant to hold him accountable. He is amazingly free.

Rove Is Gaming Congress, While Betting President Obama Will Look the Other Way

In addition, as grand jury testimony is secret, Rove must be well-aware that his confessions of what he may have done regarding the firing of U.S. Attorneys will never be known outside the grand jury room – unless he is prosecuted. And given the fact that U.S. Attorneys serve at the pleasure of a president, it will not be easy to base a prosecution upon their removal, even if it was for political reasons. Congressional proceedings are, of course, almost always held in public. So clearly, Rove's strategy is to tell the grand jury what it wants to hear in secret, and to hope that will be the end of the matter.

....."Rove will be able to pull this strategy off if the Obama Justice Department refuses to enforce the Congressional criminal contempt statute, like the Bush and Reagan Administrations before it.


More from John Dean on Rove's gaming.

If the Obama Justice Department forces Congress to proceed civilly to enforce its subpoenas, then the House Judiciary Committee will have to find Rove in contempt for claiming absolute immunity; the entire House will have to vote on it; and the committee will have file a lawsuit. In turn, the lawsuit will go from the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia, to the U.S Circuit Court of Appeals for the District, to the U.S. Supreme Court – where Rove will likely lose, and thus be forced to appear before the committee. However, when Rove appears, he will invoke “executive privilege.” This issue, in turn, will have to be litigated all the way to the Supreme Court – where Rove will likely lose again. When called before the committee after that, he will no doubt take the Fifth Amendment, an assertion that will also have to be litigated. In short, this could go on for years.

..."The bottom line, however, is this: Unless the Obama Justice Department says the criminal code sections regarding contempt of Congress will be honored and applied, no one should expect to hear anything publicly from Rove under oath anytime soon, if ever.


He is given such credibility by the GOP and much respect by the media. He is favored as a speaker still, getting tens of thousands to speak at various events.

The hugely credible Karl Rove

Mr. Rove is the former deputy Chief of Staff and Senior Advisor to President George W. Bush. He is currently a Fox News Contributor, Wall Street Journal Columnist and a Newsweek Columnist.

Karl Rove has been described by respected author and columnist Michael Barone in U.S. News & World Report as "…unique…no Presidential appointee has ever had such a strong influence on politics and policy, and none is likely to do so again anytime soon." Washington Post columnist David Broder has called him a master political strategist whose "game has always been long term…and he plays it with an intensity and attention to detail that few can match." Fred Barnes, executive editor of The Weekly Standard, has called him, "The greatest political mind of his generation and probably of any generation…"


That's one thing about the Republicans. They treasure those people who got them to power....they treasure them even when they are out of power. They protect them and give them credibility.

Our party only does that for the more centrist conservative party leaders, sad to say. Others who are more liberal, like Dennis Kucinich, or more outspoken, like Howard Dean....are rather left to their own devices.

Our party even uses the media to make sure certain former leaders are kept out of the national leadership.

Right after Dean stepped down there were anonymous hit pieces attacking him.

An example:

Mr. Dean certainly had a liberal fan club pushing for him. A medical doctor by training, he burst onto the presidential scene in 2004 on the strength of his "universal health care" plan as governor of Vermont. The militant Netroots crowd -- which he was among the first Democrats to cultivate -- has remained loyal and has been howling for his appointment. Some left-wing Democrats also felt he deserved the job as payment for the electoral victories he oversaw as head of the DNC.

Back in reality, however, Mr. Obama was having none of it. Plenty of top Democrats were fine with letting Mr. Dean run the DNC. His attack-dog style and Internet savvy were well suited to a job that was focused on winning elections. But his personal aggressiveness couldn't be more at odds with Mr. Obama's cool demeanor. And putting Mr. Dean in control of one of Mr. Obama's most cherished initiatives (health care) would've made John McCain's Sarah Palin pick look safe.


Lovely stuff.

A week or so later, The Hill decided he had not gotten the message so they wrote a rather nasty editorial

A Dean appointment is not likely. Based on their history of working against one another, Emanuel, now White House chief of staff, must be recommending other candidates to President Obama. Moreover, Dean does not have a lot of close friends among Democratic leaders in Congress. But some on Capitol Hill, including Sen. Tom Harkin (D-Iowa), are publicly calling on Obama to tap Dean. Stranger things have happened in politics, and it appears Dean, a physician, would take the job if it were offered.

..."The HHS job requires working with both political parties, especially with healthcare reform expected to move in the 111th Congress. Dean has been firing salvos at the GOP for the last six years. Because of that, very few Republicans in Congress would want him at the negotiating table on a massive revamping of the healthcare system. The stimulus package shows that despite Obama’s commitment to bipartisanship, GOP votes are tough to come by in the Senate. Healthcare reform will be no exception.


The Hill was right. The other 3 anonymous sources were right.

Rush is rich.

Rove is protected and given media jobs.

Dean is gone from national party leadership.

Way big different standards for the two parties and those that brung them to the dance.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 09:48 PM
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1. Married and no children? I hope he hasn't been having SEX!
Of course, looking at him, that isn't much of a stretch.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 09:53 PM
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2. He really has gained weight.
A lot of it.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 11:30 PM
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7. He looks like Rick Majerus.
Of course, not nearly as cool as Majerus!
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 11:37 PM
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8. That stumped me, I had to look up a picture.
You are right, yes Rush does look like him....

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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 03:15 AM
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12. haha, yeah...
Edited on Sun Mar-01-09 03:17 AM by Drunken Irishman
He coached the Utah Utes in the 90s, took them to the national championship game in 1998 and lost to Kentucky. He then retired, went and worked for ESPN and got a job coaching at St. Louis (a Catholic university, Majerus is Catholic). Back during the primaries he spoke at a rally for Hillary Clinton and was almost fired because of endorsing her pro-choice positions.

http://www.kmov.com/topstories/stories/kmov_localnews_080121_majerus.45f5820f.html

Sometimes I am embarrassed by the Catholic Church.

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ShockediSay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 09:58 PM
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3. Well, I think we owe one large debt to Dr Dean for bringing us two
previously unimaginable victorious elections.

Plus the man has integrity.

Not so for the jackals of the hill or behind the
media hatchet jobs. They remind me of Donald
Segretti.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 11:15 PM
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6. There was never a need for those hatchet jobs.
They were not necessary.

You are right, he did a lot for the party.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 09:58 PM
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4. the current administration seems to be set on protecting Rove and bushco crimes
doesnt help that certain congresspersons keep issuing subpoenas they have no intention of enforcing. Rove knows a paper tiger when he sees one.

Msongs
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 10:16 PM
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5. I have never seen anything like it.
The way Rove just gets away with anything and keeps getting media jobs.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 11:40 PM
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9. Get that fat juicy another sausage!
:puke:
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 12:04 AM
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10. K and R
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 02:15 AM
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11. A thank you for that.
:hi:
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 10:45 AM
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13. No problem buddy...I always enjoy your posts....
they are well researched and written.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 11:25 AM
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14. Old stuff...
but Google "Jeff Christie"...Limbaugh has a sordid past, and one that is not very pleasant.

His former wives have been well paid to remain "silent", however, the latest did say that Limbaugh was a lazy slob who spent most of his time on the couch watching TV.
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certainot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 11:59 AM
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15. limbaugh represents the root of the problem- the talk radio monopoly
was largely responsible for selling the war, deregulation, tax breaks for billionaires, and the global warming denial that has gotten us to this point. that's what imbaugh is paid for, not selling flooring and renai hot water heaters and local steaks. he is cheap at that price if you want to sell and destroy the country.

talk radio does the groundwork for everything the GOP does and is especially good managing and intimidating the media, feeding it prechewed and established talking points, swiftboating progressives, and turning molehills into mountains. the corporate media conglomerates share the same interests as GOP politicians and enables and perpetuates the GOP garbage that starts and at and wouldn't go far without the talk radio monopoly with its GOP-coordinated uncontested repetition.

the difference between the way rove and bush's crimes are minimized and how don siegleman and howard dean and john kerry are treated is a direct result of allowing the one party control of a homogenous 1000 station strong monopoly- the biggest soapbox in the country. the rest of the media has to at least present a pretense of balance.

rove wouldn't be more than an above avg political hack if not for the talk radio monopoly that allowed him to take the lee atwater's techniques national with the help of a pack of well funded 'think' tanks.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 01:54 PM
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17. Well said.
:hi:
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cilla4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 12:33 PM
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16. Republic party to country:
I GOT NUTHIN'

This explains Jindal, Palin, Limbaugh
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 06:37 PM
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18. Exactly. They have a vacuum.
But they do treasure their right wingers. They don't ignore them or run from them.
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Stinger2 Donating Member (352 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 10:53 PM
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19. Propaganda
Propaganda is the dissemination of information aimed at influencing the opinions or behaviors of large numbers of people. As opposed to impartially providing information, propaganda in its most basic sense presents information in order to influence its audience. Propaganda often presents facts selectively (thus lying by omission) to encourage a particular synthesis, or gives loaded messages in order to produce an emotional rather than rational response to the information presented. The desired result is a change of the attitude toward the subject in the target audience to further a political agenda.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda

The Media, I remember when the media meant news, not the talking points of the day, divide and conquer, hate, catch 22 phrases that hurt your hair, giving no resolution just bewilderment as they march us down a path not seen before in this country.

The new Millennium brings in the experts at propaganda, ounce you know they are most likely telling you propaganda, it is easier to know when you are being fed propaganda.

They are sinister and have billions riding on what they say and what you are told and most of all what you think. The Have and Have More, the ultra rich of the country are sitting back laughing there asses off, still feeding us the same crap. Many times what they don’t say is a clue to what they are really up to. They give false witness, mixing facts with lies to lead down the path of not knowing the truth, propaganda.
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