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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 05:56 PM
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US shortchanged -AIG releases list of recipients of bailout money.
Edited on Sun Mar-15-09 06:00 PM by kpete
Breaking–AIG releases list of recipients of bailout money. US shortchanged.
By: looseheadprop Sunday March 15, 2009 3:28


AIG just relased its listof counter-parties (recipients of bailout money which flowed through AIG) There are 4 nifty charts.

Here's the take away:

Chart A:$6.2 billion out of $22.4 billion goes to US Financial concerns (that we know of. $41 billion is unaccounted for)
Cart B: $10 billion out of $29.6billion goes to US concerns
Chart C: $7 billion out of $12.1 billion (with $ 5.1 billion unaccounted for) goes to US concerns
Chart D: $14.7 billion out of $43.7 billion goes to US concerns

By "US concerns" I mean US banks and financial institutions,like Citbank or Goldman Sachs, or to States and municipalities in the US. The rest go to foreign banks, primarily in Europe.

So, out of $107.8 billion of US taxpayer money only $37.9 is specifically identified as going to US concerns.

We only got 35% of our own money!

more:
http://disturbingthecomfortable.blogspot.com/2009/03/money-comes-money-goes-where.html
http://www.aig.com/aigweb/internet/en/files/CounterpartyAttachments031509_tcm385-153015.pdf
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 05:59 PM
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1. GLOBAL FREE (credit default swaps) TRADE!
n/t
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 06:57 PM
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2. Kicking this expose to the greatest page
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lostnotforgotten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 07:02 PM
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3. Grab The Pitchforks And Sharpen The Guillotine - We Got Some Justice To Administer
Edited on Sun Mar-15-09 07:03 PM by lostnotforgotten
eom
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Idealism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 07:04 PM
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4. I warned about this awhile back, its called "counterparty credit risk"
and AIG is right in the middle of the shitpile.
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BlueJac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 07:09 PM
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5. Get a rope!
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Mike 03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 07:12 PM
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6. I hope this will help people understand why it was life-or-death necessary that we
save AIG, as despicable as they are.

And this is still only half the story.

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Mike 03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 07:14 PM
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7. Wait a second, don't you understand why that overseas money IS our concern?
Edited on Sun Mar-15-09 07:17 PM by Mike 03
Please. That is financing our debt.

It could be financing your 401K or your pension plan.

That is why they call this a global problem.

We are spending beyond our means thanks to our overseas neighbors, and that is why we can't just kick them in the balls when the bill comes due.

Edit:

Kick and rec, to see more thoughtful discussion on this matter.



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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 08:35 PM
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8. You mean,
Edited on Sun Mar-15-09 08:35 PM by Marie26
if Dubai & China can't collect on their CDS', they'll stop buying our Treasury bonds? I wonder if the Obama Ad. even got a threat to that effect?
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-16-09 12:57 AM
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11. No, this is not "financing our debt".
This is paying off the gambling debts of hedge funds when both sides of the private, for-profit transactions were well aware of the risk involved.
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-16-09 06:32 AM
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12. Don't you get it? Stiffing the Chinese on debt products would be a really good thing right now!
Fuck the Chinese! Let's stiff them on our debt to them. Who cares about tomorrow!

:sarcasm:

Thanks for trying to get people to stop and THINK for a moment, but I don't think it will do any good.
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 11:02 PM
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9. I think we need a Class Action Lawsuit
against AIG. Why not?
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Doremus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 11:16 PM
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10. Foreign banks bought more of AIG's products.
The Ponzi scheme involved buying the worthless derivatives and then insuring them via AIG. More foreign banks did it this way than domestic.
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