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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 11:37 PM
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UFOs photographed over London
for the DUERS that love UFOS

a spotting in London today
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/5007735/UFOs-photographed-over-London.html

Derek Burdon was left stunned when he took a scenic pictures of the UK capital then noticed four flying saucers on the far right of the picture.

Mr Burdon took the photographs 16 floors up on the roof top of Orion House in Covent Garden in the morning.



Although invisible to the naked eye, the shapes can be clearly seen on the picture.

Derek, 40, of Leverington, Cambs, said: "We couldn't believe it when we came to look at the photo. I just thought I would take some scenic shots of the London Eye and also Big Ben.

"There was nothing unusual in the photo and it was only when we flicked through them later that we saw them and then it started a big UFO debate.

"I have not tampered with it and you would not be able to fake it. It was taken on my mobile and I guess I am just lucky to have it. These shapes were not visible to the naked eye so it's not as if I was looking for them."
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 11:39 PM
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1. That is the fakingist faked up faker fakey photo of flying saucers EVER. n/t
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shireen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 11:39 PM
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2. opps ...
i told that smartass 9-tentacled engineer not to do maintenance on the cloaking devices in daylight!
:P
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specimenfred1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 11:40 PM
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3. They were spotted next to "Obatma"!
I love the Weekly World News, they've got one about "Sarah Palien" as well.
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Idealism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 11:40 PM
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4. Man the tory-graph has stooped so low as to publish clearly faked photos?
didn't think it was possible for them...
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marybourg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 11:40 PM
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5. Looks like breaks in the clouds to me. nt.
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KellyW Donating Member (539 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 11:51 PM
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7. It is clear to me what it is
it is the recessed lights in the room the photographer is in reflecting on the window.
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 01:02 AM
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23. Good call-- I agree with you. n/t
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 07:29 AM
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28. Here are photographs of the building.
Edited on Thu Mar-19-09 07:31 AM by Why Syzygy
Click on view more images. Notice the recessed lighting. The view showing the upper floors indicate that "roof top" would likely be behind the windows. However. This building is only five stories, not 16, so even though the address matches :shrug: Where are our Brit friends?

http://www.grantsint.com/CaseStudies/Details.asp?PageID=2005

Orion House

Click Here for more Images Upper St Martin`s Lane
Covent Garden, London

The Orion House development, at the corner of Upper St Martin`s Lane, consists of an unusual 5 storeys office building of about 98,000 sq ft of floor space and an associated residential building of storeys named Meridian Place.
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 09:26 AM
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33. I have a pic I took years ago while driving through a rain storm. A
beautiful double rainbow appeared so I took a picture through the windshield of our car.At the same time I snapped the pic the driver reached up to get something off the dash board. There is a reflection of a hand beside the rainbow. MAYBE, I could pass this off as the "hand of god" What do ya think?
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 11:50 PM
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6. Looks like ceiling lights
reflected in the window glass. I see "UFOs" like that at my house when I have my dining room light on during the day. :shrug:
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 11:53 PM
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8. I thought that too, but it says they were taken from a rooftop.
so either they are not being truthful, or there were windows on the roof and ceiling lights (which makes no sense to me)
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 01:03 AM
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24. Because people who promote a phoney UFO photo would never lie about where they took it!
Edited on Thu Mar-19-09 01:04 AM by Marr
:P
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Lucian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 12:01 AM
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10. If they were reflections from a window...
we'd see more than just the lights, like the reflection of people or furniture.

Besides, the picture was taken from a rooftop. No windows up on a rooftop.
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 12:06 AM
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12. If you read my post I pointed out that windows on a rooftop made no sense
so it is possible that they are not being truthful about where the picture was taken.

Also it is very possible that only the light source is reflected in the window. There may not be any people reflected because of the angles involved.


I am not saying that it is definitely lights reflecting on a window, only that it looks like it.

Also, if you were going to take some scenic shots of London, would you have a crane right in the middle of your shot? I know I wouldn't.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 12:13 AM
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14. That's true
through I have been on roof tops where there have been plexiglass walls to keep people from falling or jumping. I've never been on this particular roof so I don't know what's there.

They just look like reflections to me.

I'll have to try an experiment tomorrow and see if I can get a shot of a "UFO" over Berkeley through my picture window with my dining room light on. During the day the light reflects a lot more than the furniture or people and the angle that the shot is taken makes a big difference.
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 12:15 AM
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17. cloudy day might help, flat light outside may help the reflections stand out
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FormerDittoHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 08:54 AM
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29. Yes - "Rooftop" aka Rooftop lounge, picture through a sliding glass door.
I'm not usually a kneejerk skeptic about these kind of things but they're Soooo OBVIOUSLY ceiling lights. Why argue to the contrary and seek the LEAST LIKELY THING?

LAST I CHECKED - there are like HUNDREDS of people living in LONDON. :sarcasm: Don'cha think one of them would have NOTICED something like that?

He didn't remember seeing these things on the "far right"? OH COME ON! LIKE YOU WOULD *MISS* THOSE THINGS? "Far Right"? They're practically in the middle of the picture!

He didn't remember seeing these things? - JUST LIKE HE DOESN'T REMEMBER TAKING THE PICTURE THROUGH THE SLIDING GLASS DOOR.

I used to be a professional photographer. I've taken tens of thousands of pictures, and that was with film, and you had to pay for it. I've taken thousands of pictures where it wasn't until I saw it I caught this or that little thing, like REFLECTIONS.



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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 11:59 PM
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9. Oh, those are just "cloud holes".
I see 'em all the time.

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Lucian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 12:02 AM
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11. I was thinking that too...
but the person who took the pic said they weren't visible to the naked eye. If they were cloud holes, then he/she would've seen them, I would think. :shrug:
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 12:14 AM
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16. "lens holes"?
Actually they look like solid light-colored objects, and they are consistent in size and form.

Often these are reflective artifacts created within the optics of the camera.

I have no idea on this one.
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 12:13 AM
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15. look at the second one from the left, it seems to be in the middle of a fairly thick cloud
I honestly think they are reflections of ceiling lights in a window
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 12:09 AM
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13. Give me a photo of any location and I can make you identical UFO's and send them to your mobile
phone as well, then you too can have your very own "proof" of UFO's in your favorite place.
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Vanje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 12:34 AM
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18. They look like something in a cheesy Sci-Fi film classic
Edited on Thu Mar-19-09 12:35 AM by Vanje
from about 1961.

Retro Cool!
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 12:41 AM
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19. And in a city of over 7 million, he's the only one to see them
And he didn't even "see them" until he later looked at his badly taken photographs on an extremely low-res cell phone camera.
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 12:49 AM
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20. Not unidentified, and not flying. Just some objects.





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EnviroBat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 10:04 AM
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36. Excellent work.
They are a reflection on the glass that this moron is taking a picture THROUGH. This was so dumb it made my butt hurt...
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pengillian101 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 11:34 PM
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45. Thanks for that!
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 12:56 AM
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21. How about spotlights - the rotating sets that are used as attention-getters? (nt)
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 01:00 AM
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22. This was the slickest way I've ever seen for somone to get a picture of a giant erect robot penis...
...into a national newspaper. My hat's off to these guys! (Or is that 'cap'?)

PB
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mb7588a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 01:32 AM
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25. Looks like reflection of recessed lighting in the window he shot the pic through... nt
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MichellesBFF Donating Member (313 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 07:08 AM
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27. Did the DR show up to save London?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 02:01 AM
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 08:57 AM
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30. Recessed Ceiling Lights
Sweet Jesus, you can even see the outline of the light bulbs in the front two...
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cobalt1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 09:10 AM
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31. The threshold for belief is very low with the "Aliens are among us" crowd
It's as good as anything else they've got.

Which isn't' much as the picture is an obvious fake.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 09:13 AM
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32. Has anyone seen the good China?? It was right over there in the
Edited on Thu Mar-19-09 09:13 AM by HysteryDiagnosis
hutch a few days ago, we had visitors from the U.K. but I don't think they would.... mmmmmm nevermind.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 09:46 AM
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34. Not even a good fake and yet the tabloid printed it.
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 09:50 AM
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35. IBTM...
shouldn't you know by now where to post this nonsense?

Sid
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 10:17 PM
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37. I'm much more interested in that weird, vertical ring-shaped vessel at the far left
Surprising!
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 11:28 PM
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38. I love Photoshop
Berkeley under attack.


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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 11:43 PM
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39. Wow, everyone here doesn't believe in UFOs. And all photos of UFOs are fakes.
Oh wait, it's DU, nothing surprises me. :eyes:


Aliens could land on the White House lawn and most of you would claim it's CGI. You have NO proof that the photo isn't real, you just decide off-hand it's a fake.
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 11:06 PM
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42. It's not up to the skeptic to prove that the photo is fake
It's up to the UFO-proponent to verify the photo's legitmacy.


Sorry, but that's how it goes. The UFO-proponent is making an astonishing claim and is offering astonishingly flimsy evidence in support of that claim. Given the importance of the claim if it were shown to be true, it is only prudent to demand stronger corroboration than a dubious photo.
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 11:44 PM
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48. I'm glad most of the posters here use critical thinking...
in evaluating the claim of the OP. But don't worry, there are plenty of DU'ers who bathe in woo who will keep you company.

Sid
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 11:46 PM
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49. Canada?
Edited on Sun Mar-22-09 11:55 PM by DainBramaged
Click.


Oh, and piss off. Look up dumbass in the AMERICAN dictionary, your picture is there.
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 11:50 PM
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51. LMFAO...
I'm oh so happy to join the illustrious group that DainBramaged has put on ignore!!!

Sorry to see you're so delicate.

Sid
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 11:46 PM
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40. I'm reminded of the video showing a plane losing a whole wing in flight and landing safely.
Dozens of posters lauding what must be the greatest pilot in history, only to find out it was a small RC plane.
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 11:51 PM
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41. From beyond the grave, Ed Wood is saying, "I MUST have that FOOTAGE!"
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kitty1 Donating Member (772 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 11:28 PM
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43. If you believe we exist in a holographic universe....
then it's not that implauseable a theory to believe that there are other realms or realities out there not visible to the naked eye.
There is an infrared realm out there with objects that at times can be detected thru special military goggles apparently. Objects not normally seen through eyesight alone.
I'm open to the possibility that there is much more out there than is contained in our small 3 dimensional visible world.
I'm not saying unquestionable that those objects are UFO's. But I'm open minded to legitimate theories about the unexplained and will go as far as to say that I believe there other lifeforms out there which can travel thru parallel realities or universes at will.
Sometimes visible, sometimes not. Depending on the observer.
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 11:38 PM
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47. I don't think you understand what infrared is...nt
Sid
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 11:48 PM
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50. Neither do I, but you have to admit it's entertaining...
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 11:51 PM
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52. Got that right...
:hi:

Sid
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Onceuponalife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 11:53 PM
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53. break out the tinfoil hats
:tinfoilhat:
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 11:32 PM
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44. I bet the hoaxster was saying to his or her friend: "Here's how stupid Americans are...."
:rofl:
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Stevenmarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 11:35 PM
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46. Que the Theremin
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