Today's RW Spaghetti (as flung at the wall in Joey the Scar's hot air emporium):

[Skidmore]

We don't want overreach with this torture thing because it's dangerous for the Dems to set up McCarthylike hearings.

Children, what is the difference between Torturegate and McCarthy hearings? Repeat after me, Torturegate has real crimes planned and carried out by real people. McCarthyism tried people for what they thought they were thinking or believing.

[annabanana]

1. The "circus" thing was cute.. NOW

Joe is now adding "Lincoln did worse. . let's take down his monumtent.. besides, bad things happen in "war""

[malaise]

2. Morning Jo(k)e is pathetic

They are scared shitless - terrified.

[Skidmore]

5. Yes they are because they know that a constant litany of the war crimes committed by

* and Cheney will put the Rs out of business permanently. Furthermore, they are carrying on about how such trials could "inflame" the Muslim world. I think that is not the case. I really believe that the world seeing us clean our own home will open doors for cooperation.

[polichick]

3. And they keep saying the president doesn't want this.

[annabanana]

4. That. . for the time being, doesn't serve us badly..

He should not be the "point man" on this.

[polichick]

6. Yeah, but it looks like they're hoping this statement will change minds.

[Skidmore]

8. If only wishes were horses for the RW...

well...

I don't care what they hope. The RW has earned the scorn of the nation and the world.

[Subdivisions]

7. Did you notice earlier how Scar was saying Boner

was confident yesterday in his response to Nancy Pelosi's statement on Congress' role in knowledge of torture but that Nancy was just "Nancy"?

"Boner displayed all the confidence in the world. Nancy was just....well..."Nancy".

Sounds to me like he's trying to lay all the blame for torture at Nancy's feet. Nevermind it being bushco's program.

My head almost exploded.

[Skidmore]

9. Boehner was freaking whistling past the graveyard, the same thing

he has been doing since January. Scarborough is the Rs first place of the day to catapault the propaganda to those who are not Faux viewers or Limbaugh zombies. He lobs it out there with a giggle and slathered with a little sugar to make it palatable, trying to disguise crap as your morning pastry.

[Subdivisions]

11. Also, in the clip they showed of Boner, they conveniently left out the

part where Boner actually says "torture techniques".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLDOrweewv0

Funny how that works.

[Deb]

12. perfect description of scarborough

The R's prune danish. :applause:

[opihimoimoi]

10. Intentional denigration of Dems...esp Nancy....Its all part of the GOP effort to make themselves

look good

by making others look bad...bully move

[underpants]

17. Yeah the dime story psychology was absurd

"Pelosi is very guarded, watching every word" Buchanan said it was like she was on trial-guess what Pat EVERYONE is on trial.

[annabanana]

13. They are bringing out The Big Shill. . . . Gregory coming up.

He will reinforce the sophistry that has been put out there already. It will be a big agree-fest.

[Skidmore]

19. Joe: "We have to end this I'm evil-you're evil" political back and forth

between the parties.

[chimpymustgo]

14. "Morning Torture" is on a mission. Faster, Joe, faster.

[annabanana]

15. They are hitting on ALL cylinders this morning.

"It would decend into a nasty fight.. bad for the Country"
"They're as guilty as everyone else"


(Did I see in the crawl that there will be another release of photos?)

[Skidmore]

16. Horse pucks, Hoesktra on now catapaulting fears of not being able to get their

hands on documents to prove Dem culpability. Joey and Buchanan whipping up fears of coverups and destruction of documents. Rs "need to protect the members of the intelligence community" since "the president has thrown under the bus." How stupid do they think we are? Who has the most to lose by this? I'd love to see the bills of the last adminsitration for paper shredders before they left office. Since when have the Rs been concerned about accountability in the past 8 years?

[underpants]

18. Gregory is on establishing "it is all Clinton's fault" meme

they are trying desperately to set the talking points for the weekend

[Skidmore]

20. Carefully cued after play Kit Bond's rant from yesterday.

[underpants]

25. Exactly

now they are on to hypotheticals about what the NEXT administration will do with photos of dead children in Pakistan as a result of OBAMA'S drone attacks

[Skidmore]

21. Ah, yes, Gregory, let's find someone who's independent

of political philosphy to sort this out. Good luck with that one, buddy.

[annabanana]

23. "were these techniques illegal"? BIG circular arguement.. OMG!!

They didn't think it was torture, therefore they weren't authorizing torture.

[Canuckistanian]

22. I thought they LIKED McCarthyism

I thought it was supposed to be GOOD for America because it got rid of all those "commies".

Is McCarthyism bad now? I can't keep up.

[C_U_L8R]

24. They like it as long as THEY get to play dress-up McCarthy

the darn fools' hypocrisy is showing

[eShirl]

26. the Torture Party is scrambling like a poodle on linoleum

[Skidmore]

27. There is a not so subtle threat being framed in this mornings propaganda and I wonder

if we have enough in our camp to stand up to it. Clinton authorized rendition. Period. The documents that Bond wants to get his hands on really does not have anything to do with *. Documents of the * administration will come out. What they want is documentation of rendition by the Clinton administration and then push to have Clinton indicted for war crimes too if the * administration is taken down.

Now, let's hash this one out. I want torture to end. Period. NO administration should be allowed to skate on this one. We should not just be having a "national discussion" (I hate that euphenism) about this issue; we should be ending its practice and upholding the law.

[annabanana]

28. Nausea is getting to me... "It was GOOD that Ford pardoned Nixon"

"The whole thing is so complicated". .

[Skidmore]

30. Exactly. They are hoping that by making it complicated

we will back down. That people will be so sickened and daunted by the complexity of the whole history of things done in our name, we will back down. Really, it is very simple. The law was broken--federal and international. The law of the land was flagrantly disobeyed by the erstwhile "leader" of our nation and to the detriment of our nation and the world. We are either a nation of laws or no better than the most corrupt and abusive goverment in any quarter of the Third World. Either no man is above the law or it has no meaning.

[annabanana]

29. "The Democrats will overreach with the trials". .

Like torture wasn't an OVERREACH!!!

[Vinca]

31. Can you imagine the Republican response if this had happened

during a Democratic administration? There would be war crimes trials at Madison Square Garden, televised on HBO. The Dems in Congress need to grow their backbones real fast and do what's right. You can't make nice with people who won't acknowledge torture for what it is.