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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 09:03 AM
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Why Ida is such an amazing ancestor
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/interactive/2009/may/19/fossil-ida-evolution

This link takes you to a graphic that highlights some of Ida( the 'missing link' primate fossil)'s most remarkable characteristics. She's really quite a lovable little creature. She made quite an impression in her short life. ;)

:loveya:
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 09:10 AM
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1. What a sweetheart. :-)
Thanks for the link: Very informative and surprisingly ENTERTAINING. ;)
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sammythecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 09:20 AM
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2. Weird, but this makes me sad.
Poor Ida.:cry:

Just seeds and fruit.

I love Ida.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 09:23 AM
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3. She was just a baby when she died.
And she'd already had a fracture (from what?) that was healing. Poor little thing.
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sammythecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 09:30 AM
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4. I know. I can't stand it.
Edited on Wed May-20-09 09:31 AM by sammythecat
:cry: :cry:

and all she did was eat seeds and fruit :cry:
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 09:37 AM
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5. What a find
Fundies must be screaming every time they hit google today.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 09:40 AM
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6. The funny thing is, the media keep using that phrase 'missing link'
Edited on Wed May-20-09 09:41 AM by BurtWorm
which is not even a useful term biologically, and a misleading one in terms of evolution. There is no one link from the ancestors to us. But the media need a handle and it happens to be one that drives the fundamentalists insane!


PS: Here's an interesting antidote to the Ida hype:

http://scienceblogs.com/laelaps/2009/05/poor_poor_ida_or_overselling_a.php
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 04:55 PM
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14. Thanks for the link. That article provides a more substantive assessment of the paper than the
pre-arranged marketing campaign and soon to be televised documentary will provide. The Ida paper may indeed be sloppy science but it will be fixed in popular thinking that "the missing link" has been found when the Ida paper, however flawed, doesn't appear to even make this assertion. It likely will be years before the significance of the fossil can be objectively assessed and put in context.

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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 09:49 AM
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7. Praise God that he/she/it left the fossil in such perfect condition that there can be no argument
Edited on Wed May-20-09 09:52 AM by ThomWV
about what it is and what it represents.

That is how I plan to present my understanding of this truly miraculous find of it to my fundamentalist friends.
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Towlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 12:09 PM
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11. Miraculous? A miracle is a suspension of natural law. This is the opposite: a confirmation.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 03:39 PM
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12. wonderful
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 05:05 PM
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16. I think it's interesting how the clay around her gives a good outline
of what she looked like with her fur still intact.

I suspect that people are using the "miracle" expression regarding how well preserved she is. Miracle or not, it is mighty impressive, and very rare, of course.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 11:02 AM
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8. Has anyone seen this recreation yet?
Edited on Wed May-20-09 11:03 AM by Oregone
From the Will Farrell documentary:



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Mojo_electro Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 11:02 AM
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9. On a related note...
For those who didn't notice.. Ida is featured on the Google page graphic right now.. kinda neat.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 11:53 AM
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10. Cool! I posted it below


And welcome to DU!
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 04:24 PM
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13. The scientists are not claiming it is a human ancestor or "the" missing link.
They don't have evidence to support such a claim and they don't make that claim in their report. (Public hype and advertising for a documentary is another matter.) But it is an interesting and significant find. http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2009/may/19/fossil-ida-missing-link
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 04:59 PM
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15. Yes, I know.
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 05:18 PM
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17. cool X-ray on Nat Geo site:
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