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pkdu Donating Member (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 12:33 PM
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Dick Cheney live on CSPAN - just blamed Richard A Clarke for not alerting them re 9/11
Un-frickin-believable!...
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 12:34 PM
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1. When will he stop lying.
Methinks he doth protest too much.

Covering his tracks much?
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 12:48 PM
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17. He'll stop lying when the cameras stop rolling ...
which may be years after he passes from this mortal plane ...
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 12:35 PM
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2. please tell me you are kidding!
:mad:
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pkdu Donating Member (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 12:46 PM
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15. Not kidding...those were his words "Richard Clark missed it"
when challenged with Clarke's version from his book ... Darth just smirked "thats not my recollection and I haven't read his book heh-heh-heh" Evil Bastard.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 12:35 PM
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3. I guess by that logic, I'm guilty, too.
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 12:35 PM
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4. WTF?
I hope Clarke comes out publicly and says what a liar Cheney is.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 12:36 PM
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5. Richard Clarke will have some choice words for Cheney!!
Edited on Mon Jun-01-09 12:37 PM by bdamomma
has that SOB cheney said how many lives he saved with Enhanced Interrogation Techniques or TORTURE!!
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Parker CA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 12:36 PM
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6. MSNBC has lost me in the morning and afternoon hours. Such utter BS that they cover this
guy. They make it seem as if he's still in charge. Un-f'ing-believable.
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 12:36 PM
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7. He is ASKING for a smackdown!!!
Richard Clarke won't (I hope) stand by for this slander.

Unfrigginbelievable indeed. :mad:
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 12:36 PM
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8. Whoa! I don't see Richard Clarke taking that shit from him....
and I have NO doubt Clarke knows a lot he has yet to tell. Cheney is beyond desparate now, imo, to do this.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 12:38 PM
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10. cheney is a scared little man.
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 12:38 PM
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9. blaming the guy who was trying to warn, who they ignored?
what the hell is wrong with Chi Knee?
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Parker CA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 12:39 PM
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12. He falsely assumes people believe everything he and his cronies have convinced themselves of. nt.
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 12:39 PM
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11. Newsweek: Zelikow blocked memos exposing pre-9/11 warnings by Richard Clarke

http://www.newsweek.com/id/107492

Enough Blame for All
New book reveals clashes behind the 9/11 probe

By Michael Isikoff | Newsweek Web Exclusive


In the summer of 2003, Warren Bass, an investigator for the 9/11 Commission, was digging through highly classified National Security Council documents when he came across a trove of material that startled him. Buried in the files of former White House counterterrorism czar Richard Clarke, the documents seemed to confirm charges that the Bush White House had ignored repeated warnings about the threat posed by Osama bin Laden. Clarke, it turned out, had bombarded national-security adviser Condoleezza Rice in the summer of 2001 with impassioned e-mails and memos warning of an Al Qaeda attack—and urging a more forceful U.S. government response. One e-mail jumped out: it pleaded with officials to imagine how they would feel after a tragedy where "hundreds of Americans lay dead in several countries, including the U.S.," adding that "that future day could happen at any time." The memo was written on Tuesday, Sept. 4, 2001—just one week before the attacks on New York's World Trade Center and the Pentagon.

But when Bass tried to impress the significance of what he had discovered upon the panel, he ran into what he thought was a roadblock—his boss. Philip Zelikow, a respected University of Virginia historian hired to be the 9/11 Commission's executive director, had long been friendly with Rice. The two had coauthored a book. Rice had later placed him on a Bush transition team that reorganized the NSC (and ended up diminishing Clarke's role). At Rice's request, Zelikow had also anonymously drafted a new Bush national-security paper in September 2002 that laid out the case for preventive war.

In commission staff meetings, Zelikow disparaged Clarke as an egomaniac and braggart who was unjustly slandering his friend Rice, according to a new book, "The Commission: The Uncensored History of the 9/11 Investigation," by New York Times reporter Philip Shenon. Bass was so disturbed by what he saw as Zelikow's bullying that at one point he threatened to resign. So did a Democratic commissioner, Bob Kerrey, when he discovered Zelikow's ties to the administration. "Look, Tom, either he goes or I go," Kerrey told the panel's chairman, Republican Tom Kean, about Zelikow, according to Shenon.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 12:47 PM
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16. One e-mail jumped out
"Imagine how {Bush administration officials} would feel after a tragedy where hundreds of Americans lay dead." Well, they imagined it, and decided that they'd feel pretty good about it, because they could leverage and stovepipe the incident into the most obscene power grab this country has ever experienced.

If Cheney's casting about looking for a scapegoat, he doesn't need to go all the way to Richard Clarke; there's no shortage of craven little sycophants in his very own administration who allegedly failed to warn him and his putative boss, the president.

Well, there's no sense in investigating any of this. Water under the bridge. Bodies out of the sky. We'd just be re-hashing stuff. Mustn't scrutinize Cheney's pronouncements too closely. It would be bad for the country. Divisive. Tear us apart. Just let the criminally negligent go free.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 02:01 PM
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19. Let's hope all men of good conscience will come forward and expose the full actions/inactions of
junior's administration to a widely known impending terrorist attack, letting the chips fall where they may. :P
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GreatCaesarsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 12:42 PM
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13. wasn't clarke warning you of an attack?
Cheney: that'e not my recollection.

he said something after that and people laughed but i couldn't make out what he said.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 12:43 PM
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14. Clinton Administration Finally Gets To Set The Record Straight:
Senior Clinton administration officials called to testify next week before the independent commission investigating the Sept. 11 attacks say they are prepared to detail how they repeatedly warned their Bush administration counterparts in late 2000 that Al Qaeda posed the worst security threat facing the nation � and how the new administration was slow to act.

They said the warnings were delivered in urgent post-election intelligence briefings in December 2000 and January 2001 for Condoleezza Rice, who became Mr. Bush's national security adviser; Stephen Hadley, now Ms. Rice's deputy; and Philip D. Zelikow, a member of the Bush transition team, among others.

Mr. Zelikow, the director of the Miller Center of Public Affairs at the University of Virginia and a co-author of a 1995 book with Ms. Rice, has been the target of repeated criticism from some relatives of Sept. 11 victims. They have said his membership on the Bush transition team and his ties to Ms. Rice pose a serious conflict of interest for the commission, which is investigating intelligence and law-enforcement actions before the attacks.

Mr. Clarke said if Mr. Zelikow left any of the White House intelligence briefings in December 2000 and January 2001 without understanding the imminent threat posed by Al Qaeda, "he was deaf."

One official scheduled to testify, Richard A. Clarke, who was President Bill Clinton's counterterrorism coordinator, said in an interview that the warning about the Qaeda threat could not have been made more bluntly to the incoming Bush officials in intelligence briefings that he led.

http://www.theleftcoaster.com/archives/001341.php
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 01:07 PM
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18. Richard Clarke videos and link to transcript....
for the viewing pleasure of those who don't realize how vocal he was a few years ago.

I HOPE HE BECOMES EVEN MORE VOCAL AND GETS EQUAL TIME TO REFUTE CHENEY'S BLATANT LIES.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqzKKFJSPvc (from "Outfoxed" -- discussing Faux News' campaign to discredit Clarke)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wwh8YZkKgSM (From "Countdown")

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQ4x_ym5r1Q (60 minutes part 1 discussing 9/11..before, during and after)

Portion of transcription from above "60 Minutes" interview:

STAHL: Clarke was the President's top advisor on terrorism and yet it wasn't until after 9-11 that he ever got to brief Mr. Bush on the subject. Clarke says that prior to 9-11 this administration did not take the threat seriously.

CLARKE: We had a terrorist organization that was going after us, al Qaeda. That should have been the first item on the agenda and it was pushed back, and back, and back for months.

STAHL: You're about to testify publicly before a committee that wants to know if the Bush administration dropped the ball. What are you going to tell the committee when they ask you that?

CLARKE: Well there's a lot of blame to go around and I probably deserve some blame too. But on January 24th of 2001, I wrote a memo to Condileezza Rice asking for, urgently -- underlined urgently -- a cabinet level meeting to deal with the impending al Qaeda attack and that urgent memo wasn't acted on.

STAHL: Do you blame her for not understanding the significance of terrorism?

CLARKE: I blame the entire Bush leadership for continuing to work on the Cold War issues when they came back in power in 2001. It was as though they were preserved in amber from when they left office eight years earlier. They came back, they wanted to work on the same issues right away -- Iraq, Star Wars -- not the new issues, the new threats that had developed over the preceding eight years

STAHL: Clarke finally got his meeting to brief about al Qaeda in April, three months after his urgent request, but it wasn't with the president or the cabinet. It was with the number twos in each relevant department. For the Pentagon, it was Paul Wolfowitz.

CLARKE: I began saying, 'We have to deal with bin Laden. We have to deal with al Qaeda.' Paul Wolfowitz the Deputy Sec'y of Defense said, 'No, no, no. We don't have to deal with al Qaeda. Why are we talking about that little guy? We have to talk about Iraqi terrorism against the United States.' And I said, 'Paul, there hasn't been any Iraqi terrorism against the Untied States in eight years,' and I turned to the Deputy Director of CIA and said, 'Isn't that right?' and he said, 'Yeah, that's right. There is no Iraqi terrorism against the United States.'

STAHL: In eight years.

CLARKE: In eight years.

STAHL: Now explain that.

STAHL: He explained that there was no Iraqi terrorism against the US after 1993 when Saddam Hussein attempted to assassinate the first President Bush while he was visiting Kuwait.
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 02:32 PM
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20. The ONE job Bush* gave to Cheney was to Coordinate anti terrorism efforts
Cheney held exactly zero meetings on the subject before 9-11. ZERO...
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 02:37 PM
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21. time for mr clarke to take off the gloves.....cheney the dispicable
Edited on Mon Jun-01-09 02:38 PM by spanone
this is so typical of the evil fuck cheenee
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 02:43 PM
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22. Clarke? Richard "Hair on Fire" Clarke --
Edited on Mon Jun-01-09 02:44 PM by Hell Hath No Fury
didn't warn him???? Man, that Shitbag just keeps pumping the bullshit out....
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