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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 09:23 AM
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hey david gregory, your political bias is showing
gregory: "how are you going to pay for health care ......raising taxes?"

i love an interviewer who answers his own question....not.

stay tuned, he has joey the scar on soon.

meet the press has become a mine field for democrats.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 09:25 AM
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1. Well, thats what they ought to do to pay for it
Maybe he just isn't stupid
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Cresent City Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 10:01 AM
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32. Maybe he's right and stupid
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 10:03 AM
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33. good point
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 09:25 AM
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2. on Friday
Gregory said "And who better to respond to Joe Biden than JOE SCARBOROUGH?!" The networks' attempts to elevate Joe Scarborough as some intellectual is laughable at best.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 09:25 AM
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3. 'why is the u.s. only making conditional demands on israel'
Edited on Sun Jun-14-09 09:27 AM by spanone
stuuupid fucking idiot

i NEVER saw cheneee grilled in this manner.....NEVER
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 09:27 AM
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6. They are really pushing Joey for big things

Please someone, tell me what they see in this clown!
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dem629 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 09:37 AM
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14. Same with Richard Wolffe.
I think he's a muppett.
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 10:08 AM
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34. I was sick of Richard Wolfe appearing on EVERY MSNBC
show to report the same things in his book every time, but it really is worse with Joe IMO. This is partly my fault, since I watch his show and they have had someone interview/debate Joe about his book every single show for the past three weeks, in addition to the other MSNBC/NBC coverage
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 02:16 PM
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46. Distinct difference in the style of questions asked Republican guests.
Timmeh did it well, but Gregory is a quick study, and is particularly adept at this tactic, too. When questioning Republicans, they generally ask positive questions. It's like push-polling. They lob 'em "questions" like "Tell us why the GOP plan to provide more tax cuts is so good for America." If the guest were a Democrat they'd ask "How can you possibly be against tax cuts when they've proven to be so beneficial?"

Out of the starting gate, the GOPper merely has to spout his most recently-faxed talking points and Gregory, Snuffleupagus, whomever the right-wing shill "host," merely has to nod in agreement. But the Democrat has to begin by attempting to explain how Bush's tax cuts weren't "beneficial," how 95% of Americans will get tax relief under Obama, etc, etc, etc. IOW, the deck it totally stacked.

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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 09:44 AM
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22. Joe helped BushCo and the GOP Media Machine and is owed favors
Not to mention the fact that unlike Newt, Rush, Dick and the other "leaders" of the party, Joe isn't a big, fat, old, balding throwback to a dark history...at least on the surface. He LOOKS different, he is happy to say Bush was a disaster (although he didn't come around to that line of thinking until the wind was blowing the right way). Joe is marketable, period. Perhaps the only GOPper now who is, after Jindhal and Palin proved to be major embarrassments. GE will be marketing the shit out of Joe because Joe has been a loyal footsoldier, and he tests well.

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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 09:52 AM
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25. He was in the front row at the "Sweaty Hug" rally in Florida, where
McCain came back to Jesus and hugged the son of gawd.

He was there as a FAN, not a reporter, too.

FWIW.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 09:56 AM
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30. He works for cheap, perhaps. nt
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 09:27 AM
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4. He's disgusting, isn't he. I think VP Biden is holding his own, showing
that punk up.

And I won't be sticking around for joey the scab. :puke:
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 09:27 AM
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5. My wife and I are screaming at the teevee right now.
Gregory is the worst of the worst. NBC should be ashamed for letting this shit stain sit in Timbo's chair.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 09:35 AM
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12. "Timbo" was an offensive, GOP stoolie who forgot his roots and sold out to the
highest bidder. I don't mean to speak ill of the dead, but that guy was so far into Jack Welch's pocket that he snuggled up to the lint every night. He was no "hero"--he was a kissass who threw softballs at the GOP and beat the shit out of the rare Dem he "allowed" on "his" show. Russert almost ruined that show for good. At least now they're back to "the format" that has served them well for decades.

I don't get the Gregory hate here. It's misguided, IMO.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 09:52 AM
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26. Well, we'll just have to agree to disagree.
Edited on Sun Jun-14-09 09:53 AM by jefferson_dem
Russert was far from a shill for either political side. He was a genuine journalist with common humanity and integrity, in my view.

Gregory is an annoying gadfly want-to-be...
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 09:54 AM
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28. Yes, we most vociferously will. Russert did more to advance the Bush agenda
than anyone, save Cheney.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 10:20 AM
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35. He could be trusted to keep a secret.
Edited on Sun Jun-14-09 10:28 AM by kenny blankenship
Says a lot for the man doesn't it? No wonder Cheney's people considered his show their best "format".
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 10:48 AM
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36. I'll never forget that kissass White House interview, with Russert squeezed into
that Captain's chair, flustered and sweating, trying to balance his papers, his notebook and his pen on his lap. It got tricky to balance all that stuff AND kiss the Monkey's ass too.

And no one knew what he knew, back then....

OR who he was hanging out with: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/18/AR2008061802730.html

I talked with Russert on the telephone two or three times a month. Tim and I disagreed on tax policy and other issues, but we never debated over the phone. Instead, we exchanged political information, and I usually was the recipient. He supplied for use in my column news tidbits he could not use. During my half-century of journalism, he was the only colleague who was a source.

Russert and I were both uncomfortable about being witnesses, for different reasons, in the Valerie Plame CIA leak case, but we never discussed it. He always supported me, despite demands that he throw me overboard. When my memoir was published last year, Russert was generous in granting me abundant time on "Meet the Press" and his own MSNBC program.

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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 12:45 PM
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40. That's Robert Novack calling Timmeh, "My Friend, My Source."
For those who don't bother with the link.

Russert was QUITE skillful and fooled a lot of people.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 12:59 PM
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41. I am amazed at how many people here have forgotten so much.
Anyone who looks back fondly at the "Timmeh" era is looking back fondly at a lying press and an oppressive regime. There was nothing pleasant about that horrible program under Russert. He fawned over GOP guests, and excoriated Democrats. It was beyond offensive.

I just don't get the amnesia here, at times.
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 01:19 PM
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45. Remember Timmeh's Gore and Bush "interviews" pre-election 2000? NIght and day in tone.
And of course, during Scooter's trial, it came out that the Office of the VP saw Meet the Press as the place to go to get its "message" (lies) out.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 03:30 PM
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47. Ahahahahaha!! Yes, the interrogation vs. the hand job! Who could forget? nt
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 11:09 AM
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37. I'll never forget that post when Russet met GW during an election
season.
They were attending an event.

Russet walked up to Bush and someone saw him smile at Bush as he lifted lifted up his lapel and flashed his BUSH BUTTON with a smile and grin.

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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 12:27 PM
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38. That was the AL SMITH DINNER--Gore was there, too. It's a bipartisan event.
It was the one right before the 2000 theft (that Russert helped with, with his little "eraser board"--how appropriate; the electoral process was certainly erased that time around).

And Russert had his Bush button under his tuxedo lapel--Jack Welch had already gotten to him.

David Gregory, on the other hand, handed Bush his "Que bueno" ass in France, simply by speaking flawless French to Chirac. It gave us one of the best moments on TV during the Bush era.

And when Tony Snow got pissed off and called him "partisan," I figured he was doing something right.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 01:00 PM
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42. That's the event ~ I never cared for Russet after that one
But he is worshiped and adored by the MSM -- that is another reason that I stepped away from him.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 01:08 PM
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43. My eye was jaundiced after that event, as well. Then, when I saw him
spending money like a drunken sailor (he plainly got a huge "go along, get along" payday for his perfidity), buying a pricy home on an island off Cape Cod, writing those fucking BOOKS where he USED his father to elicit a tear and a huge Father's Day payday (and never, not nary a word, about his MOTHER--whassup with THAT???) and flogging, flogging, flogging the things, over and over again....it just made me sick.

He'd play the "regular guy/man of the people" routine on TV, and then, off camera, live the "farting through silk" life of a pampered king.

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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 09:28 AM
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7. How good is his health care? Does he pay anything?
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 09:31 AM
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8. That's a good trick, though. People ARE interested in the question of taxes.
The question either elicits a weak or vociferous denial--no one, since Walter Mondale, who was a rare ADULT in politics, has ever said "We're going to raise your taxes." If the denial is weak, people figure "Yep, taxes are going up." If the denial is strong, then it's less likely."

Obama, Clinton AND McCain all gave the "I have no PLANS to run for President" line when they were asked. An interviewer has to do what an interviewer has to do in order to elicit some sort of response.

I like David Gregory. At least he lets us "Meet the Press."
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 09:33 AM
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10. biden said 'we are going to eliminate tax breaks'. i don't like gregory. he's biased imo.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 09:36 AM
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13. I'm guessing he's a Democrat, if he's "biased." nt
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 09:37 AM
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16. yep, i'm sure he'll tear joe scarborough a 'new one'
:rofl:
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 09:49 AM
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23. What a silly thing to say. That's not the job of the MTP moderator.
Particularly when he's interviewing....a TALK SHOW HOST.

It helps to understand the "roles" of the players in this little bit of theater.


Scarborough works for the GE-NBC Universal family. The same outfit Gregory works for. He has a NEW BOOK OUT. That's why he's on the show.

I mean, really....DUH!!!! At least TRY to make the connection.

:eyes:

Does Shep Smith beat up Bill O'Reilly? Does Mike Wallace beat up Katie Couric? Get real.



If you actually think that Gregory didn't work out that interview with Biden in advance, and give him the opportunity to answer every question (unlike Russert, who wouldn't let people answer) I'll have what you're smoking. If Gregory wanted to "make Biden look bad" he would have. There were NO "gotchas" in that exchange. See, Gregory had no desire to do fuck Biden over, because he wants to be able to have Biden on again. Instead, he gave Biden "vigorous" questions (that Biden KNEW he was going to be asked), and created opportunity for Biden to come off as politically astute, forward looking and "masterful."

It's a one-act play, fachrissake.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 09:53 AM
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27. well, we just see the world differently...enjoy your view..for chrissake
Edited on Sun Jun-14-09 09:54 AM by spanone
your condescending tone really is nice too.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 09:55 AM
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29. You're overly sensitive. NT
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 09:59 AM
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31. whatever
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endless october Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 09:32 AM
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9. they need to raise taxes.
borrow and spend is the republican way, not the Democratic way. it undermines our currency and puts us at risk.
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dem629 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 09:33 AM
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11. Republicans regularly bash MTP/Gregory, too. He must be doing something right.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 09:37 AM
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15. As ususal. Gregory is a corporate tool
as he regularly proves
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 09:38 AM
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17. I just turn him off
He's questions are always politically loaded and biased.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 09:38 AM
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18. There is a reason I don't bother taping or usually watching MTP since Gregory took over.
John King on CNN also sucks. They are making it easier to not care about the Sunday morning shows anymore.
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Rage for Order Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 09:39 AM
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19. Not to put too fine of a point on it...
But how else does a government generate revenue for its programs? Government does not produce any goods or services that it can sell for a profit, so the money has to come from somewhere.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 09:42 AM
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20. He makes me miss Tim Russert.
At least Tim was more fair.
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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 01:14 PM
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44. Oh, puh-leeze.
Not this shit again.
Read above posts. Inform yourself.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 09:43 AM
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21. now we have two republicans and gregory on to bash what biden just said....fair & balanced
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 09:50 AM
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24. A truly awful program
:puke:
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Bobbie Jo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 12:36 PM
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39. Gregory is unwatchable.
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