how do you get a job is you can't read and write very good or at all

[ensho]

most (?) young people didn't finish high school. the stats are out there.

they barely can read and write. I'm not exaggerating. nor do they want to learn how.

there isn't any 'up' for these young people. those of us who can read and write are paying the price.

meth use is rampant and doesn't seem stoppable.

cities and states are crumbling as I type this.

prisons are full to the brim.

the neo cons are fighting for private health care.

down and down our country spirals. its depressing.

[NYCGirl]

1. Oy. This OP is wrong on so many levels, I don't know where to start. NT

[ensho]

7. well, start somewhere and tell us

nt

[NYCGirl]

9. First of all, MOST DO graduate from high school. NT

[Mojorabbit]

28. I could swear I read an article here recently

that says a huge number do not. It was a number that took my breath away.

[NYCGirl]

42. In some parts of the country, that's true. But MOST DO graduate. NT

[cwydro]

33. To start with, it is "read and write very WELL" not good. nt

[JerseygirlCT]

35. Stole my thought , lol! nt

[cwydro]

36. I didn't even mention that it should be "if", not "is". nt

[JerseygirlCT]

37. I always feel unkind when I get that itch

(to correct someone's post). I usually hold off. But sometimes, the irony is just too much.

Now, my kids, OTOH... they get their communications (written or oral) corrected constantly!

(edited for a better word.)

[cwydro]

39. Yes, I usually hold off, but because of the subject...

[JerseygirlCT]

41. I like your signature, btw. nt

[cwydro]

43. Well, thank you!

:hi:

[EOTE]

2. Was this post supposed to be ironic? NT

[BlooInBloo]

3. The correlation is well-known....

For example:

http://www.calculatedriskblog.com/2009/06/unemployment-rate-and-level-of.html

[CountAllVotes]

4. pitiful really

I know of a young woman that just got her Master's degree. This sounds nice and all BUT she never learned how to read/write very well. How she managed to ever get a master's degree is beyond me. They must be really desperate.

The scary part about it is that said young woman is a teacher! :( :( :(

How sad huh?

:kick: & recommend!!

[Vickers]

5. If this is satire, you nailed it.

If not...heh.

[YOY]

6. "most (?) young people didn't finish high school. "

Actually 70% do. Not that is couldn't be higher.

I'd say of those 30% who do not most can read and write...albeit with mistakes.

I'd say the fact that 90% don't know what city is the capital of Canada to be more pathetic.

[ensho]

8. where did your stats come from?

I've read reports that nearly 50% don't graduate in some schools in many cities.

[YOY]

10. Here.

http://www.higheredinfo.org/dbrowser/index.php?measure=23

Google "AMerican Highschool Graduation Rates" if you want another site telling the same thing.

[ensho]

13. lots of yellow on that map

nt

[YOY]

15. Yes and it's sad but "50.1% or more" it is not.

n.t.

[eShirl]

11. "most" means more than 50%, btw (n/t)

[ensho]

14. I did put in the question mark - how about 'nearly' instead of most

nearly half of all highschoolers

[RaleighNCDUer]

21. That qualifier says it all - "in some schools in many cities".

suburban graduation rates are upwards of 80%. Rural graduations rates nearly so.

What we have is primarily an URBAN education crisis.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

12. this op sounds barely literate. nt

[ensho]

16. even if its 40% how are they going to get jobs?

how you going to get them off meth? in Atlanta its the 20s and 30 yr olds doing meth. for example.

[scheming daemons]

40. The world needs ditch-diggers too.

[Lisa0825]

17. I hate to pile-on, but if you are going to post about illiteracy, it is best to proof-read. nt

(Caps?)

how do you get a job is you can't read and write very good or at all (?)


most (?) young people didn't finish high school. the stats are out there.

they barely can read and write. I'm not exaggerating. nor do they want to learn how. (fragment)

there isn't any 'up' for these young people. those of us who can read and write are paying the price.

meth use is rampant and doesn't seem stoppable.

cities and states are crumbling as I type this.

prisons are full to the brim.

the neo cons are fighting for private health care.

down and down our country spirals. its(missing apostrophe) depressing.

[ensho]

18. instead of picking at me tell us how these young people can get jobs

nt

[snooper2]

23. McDonalds is hiring...no motivation you get shitty job

you think everyone just needs a free ride?

[Maru Kitteh]

29. Are you upset because you can't read, write, and spell adequately or get a job yourself?

Is that the point of this? Do you find yourself struggling with meth addiction?

I'm not being factitious, it's a genuine question and the only way your OP makes any sense to me.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

32. Are you a scab?

Scabs get "picked at."

[Malikshah]

46. Actually, the response is quite appropriate. We have lived for the last thirty years in a country

where the leadership has said one thing and done another. There has been a woeful lack of accountability and personal responsibility taken by those who chide and harangue others.

To start a thread on the poor writing and reading skills of the younger generation with a subject line which has an egregious syntax error is quite hypocritical.

Own one's mistake. Make amends, and try again.

[verges]

19. The grammar and puncuation

mistakes here are staggering in and of themselves.

how do you get a job is you can't read and write very good or at all
should be:

How do you get a job if you can't read and write very well (if at all)?


And it really just gets worse. Isn't irony great.

[ensho]

22. so, how are they going to get jobs?

nt

[verges]

30. I don't disagree with you're premise.

I'm just pointing out the irony. It's very much like the "Moran's" guy.

[konnichi wa]

26. Should that be punkuation?

:rofl:

[madmom]

20. I see WAY too many cashiers who can't count out correct change.

[AngryAmish]

24. You don't

More and more everyday we will have an upper class of people who create and do complicated things. More of the menial, difficult and dangerous jobs will be done by robots.

Average and low intelligence people will have nowhere to go for work. Lawn care, secretarial work, factories - even flying airplanes and driving. These will be done by robots.

Not everyone has the wherewithal to do advanced math. Not everyone can read complex material and pull the meaning out. It is neither good nor bad, it just is.

We have to figure out what to do with all these people who can do nothing but manual labor but there are no manual labor jobs.

[Regret My New Name]

55. Silly, robots can't be guests on Jerry Springer...

[konnichi wa]

25. Since you appear to be asking for yourself, take a class in remedial English.

...

[Maru Kitteh]

27. cute *rolls eyes*

[Starbucks Anarchist]

31. Shouldn't "is" be "if"?

Also, it's "very well," not "very good."

[Maru Kitteh]

34. I repeat: Are you upset because you can't read, write, and spell adequately or get a job yourself?

Is that the point of this? Do you find yourself struggling with meth addiction?

I'm not being factitious, it's a genuine question and the only way your OP makes any sense to me.

[spin]

38. The controlling elite really don't want educated people...

they want people with just enough education to serve as obedient serfs.

Educated, involved people would see through the tactics and force change.

The Big Corporations believe in the mushroom theory of management:

Keep them in the dark and feed them bullshit.

[Ignis]

44. Derek, is that you?

[Starbucks Anarchist]

47. How can the children read if they can't even fit inside the building?

:rofl:

[Ignis]

56. What is this, a school for ANTS?!?

[no limit]

53. ahahahahahahaha!

[Javaman]

45. You get elected. nt

[Canuckistanian]

48. Much to learn, you have, ensho.

High school grad rates are that bad not.

What you are talking about you know not.

But right, you are, spirals depressing, it is depressing.

[elmaji]

49. Well theres a very simple solution: they can attend..

The Derek Zoolander Center For Kids Who Can't Read Good and Wanna Learn to do Other Stuff Good Too.



"What is this? A school for ANTS? It needs to be at least.....three times as big!"

[Regret My New Name]

50. If they're not motivated to improve then it's their own fault...

That is totally different than someone who is motivated and wants to improve but doesn't have the resources... The latter is something we can work with, but you can't help the former. I will also like to say that one does NOT have to go to school to learn. In fact, most people who enjoy learning learn the most outside of a classroom. People can get used books for very low prices at used book stores... Really, aside from instances in which someone has many responsibilities(single mother/father working two jobs), I don't think there is much excuse for not making at least some effort toward improving skills. Of course, if someone doesn't know how to read at all, then they are in very hopeless situation... Although, I don't think there are many totally illiterate people in the states, aye?

[Regret My New Name]

51. blah...

...

[no limit]

52. well maybe they should want to learn to read or write good

There are many legitimate reasons that people can't work, but simply not wanting to learn to read or write isn't one of them.

[WI_DEM]

54. family connections--that's how W did it.

[dionysus]

57. oh the sweet irony...

:rofl:

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

58. What do you do for a living, Ensho?

I'm curies.