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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 07:23 PM
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Ruth Faces Living Off a Scant $2.5 Million
JUNE 29, 2009

Ruth Faces Living Off a Scant $2.5 Million

By BRETT ARENDS

WSJ

How tough is it living off $2.5 million? Ruth Madoff is about to find out. Bernie Madoff's wife has been left with a lump sum in that amount from her settlement with the Justice Department. The first thing to note is that the cash doesn't come completely free and clear. She may still face claims from the Securities & Exchange Commission, the Securities Investor Protection Corporation, and the trustees liquidating her husband's business and estate. It is also unclear how much Social Security she will have to live on as well.

When you cast aside the sort of smoke and mirrors used by her husband, a conservative investment portfolio may only earn about 3% a year over inflation. At that rate, and if Mrs. Madoff wants to make sure she doesn't outlive her money, her $2.5 million settlement should give her an annual income of maybe $125,000 a year. That would make the money last all the way to age 100. That's a pretty good income. It's a lot more than many of her husband's ruined victims will have. But it will hardly support her past lifestyle. Mr. and Mrs. Madoff, according to court papers, owned homes in Manhattan, Montauk, N.Y., and Palm Beach, Fla., along with millions of dollars in furniture, art, furs, and the like. Sounds like she's going to have to do, on a bigger scale, what a lot of Americans are doing right now: Downsize.

If Ruth Madoff spends a third of her $125,000 a year on accommodation, that will come to about $3,500 a month -- enough perhaps for a (modest) two bedroom in Manhattan, but nothing glamorous. It will rent more in Florida. Especially if she moves inland from Palm Beach -- to somewhere like Sunrise. The good news? There's an Ikea nearby. And lots of factory outlets. And in Florida she will be able to survive without her $36,000 Russian sable coat. As for cars: Mrs Madoff has to give up her Mercedes-Benz E class and CLK. But a brand new Mercedes SmartCar only costs about $14,000.

As for investments: Mrs Madoff is 68. She will need income to live on for maybe 30 years or more. She's going to have to generate income to live on, and enough growth to keep up with inflation. That's going to mean a conservative mix of stocks and bonds. Among bonds, Treasurys look expensive. Even inflation protected Treasurys, so-called TIPS, are starting to look fully priced. And Mrs. Madoff would do well to avoid very long-term bonds. They are at risk from inflation. There are better opportunities in corporate debt, from investment grade to high yield. She might also look at tax-exempt municipals -- she can earn at least 3.5% tax-free without taking on too much inflation risk. She might even consider emerging market government bonds.

(snip)

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124623418258366507.html (subscription)


Printed in The Wall Street Journal, page M2

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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 07:26 PM
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1. cry me a river, Ruth... be homeless for awhile
then tell me how it is living off 2.5 mil. :nopity:
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Ishoutandscream2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 07:26 PM
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2. Bless her heart
How will she manage?
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 07:53 PM
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3. ZOMG, only $125,000 a year!!! The horror!!!!
:nopity:
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Kceres Donating Member (839 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 08:48 PM
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4. It's too much IMO. n/t
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 09:01 PM
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5. Well, the *clients* were looking for something-for-nothing, too. nt/
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XOKCowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 09:28 PM
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6. Gosh she might have to get a job!
Don't worry. The sons have so much squirreled away that none of them will ever do without.
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 09:31 PM
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7. I could buy a *really* nice house for 300 K and live off the rest
for the rest of my life, no problem, and I'm still fairly young.
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Ishoutandscream2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 09:38 PM
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9. Yes, I think just about all of us could
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 09:38 PM
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8. Must suck to be her.
With 2.5 mil I could pay off the mortgage on my house. I could pay off my son's law school loans. I could put together a nice trust fund for the grandkids I don't have yet.

She sounds like Ken Lays wife who whined on GMA( or one of those other morning shows) about being destitute all the while she had 5 mansions and god knows how much squirreled away in offshore accounts.

:nopity:

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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 09:43 PM
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10. Hey Ruth? Call me, I have an investment idea where I can double your money...
.. seriously.... call me.

:evilgrin:

If you don't want to invest, I have a mobile home I'll rent you for $600/mo (electric & water included).... call me...


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cagesoulman Donating Member (648 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 10:53 PM
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13. DUZY
Clever
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Kaleva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 10:45 PM
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11. Very nice homes go for 60 to 80k where I live
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Kansas Wyatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 10:51 PM
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12. Justice would be....
You may apply for Social Security, if you have enough credits, to live on. Until you get your first check, you're on your own.

Somebody explain to me why people like this are NOT treated like everyone else would be?
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