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sweetpotato Donating Member (678 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 01:00 PM
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Here's one from my mom - she's a Rush listener
Visited my 85 year old Rush listening mom last night.

I don't know where she came up with this one, but its interesting and Mr. Potato had just the correct response.

She said, you know animals and birds and such only mate with their own species. So why do people want to mate with other species? That's just wrong. So, we asked for clarification, because we agree, people mating with other species - not good. (I honestly thought she had heard the news item of the guy arrested for doing the neighbor's dog)

She went on to say that she just doesn't understand why people would want to mate with something that *was the wrong color.* She said birds recognize the *right colors* of prospective mates, so why not people?

Mr. Potato reminded my mother that HUMANS are a species, different races and ethnicities, too, but all the SAME SPECIES.

She was very puzzled by this idea, she was sure she had a watertight argument. But she had to admit, homo sapiens is a species, and all us humans belong.

I know mom is incredibly racist, so no need to tell me.

I just wonder where she is getting this notion. Does the general rejection of science include this kind of *thinking?*

We thought she was going to talk about the marriage rights issues, but no, just good old fashioned racism. I guess we'll get the homophobia next time.
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 01:02 PM
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1. "Race" is just a human invention - has nothing to do with biology
You change just a couple of my genes and I wouldn't be "white" - it just a concoction to make the meme of "us" and "other".
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 01:26 PM
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8. Proof that this is so true. I am of Italian dissent, but you couldn't tell by looking at me. I have
light complexion. My dad is very olive skinned my mom not so much. Now my dads sister was a pale red head and her husband was med complexion and med hair all very middle of the road stuff. Their oldest daughter, my cousin, looks so Italian she is often mistaken for an immigrant. She and I are only 2 years different in age and same generation away from the original Italian genes.:shrug:
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 01:31 PM
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12. Italian descent has many shades -
people from northern Italy are fair, much more like their Scandinavian neighbors, and the cuisine is very different from what people think of as "Italian" food.

Southern Italians, heading towards Africa, are darker, brown hair, brown eyes, darker skin.

Just proof that people cross all sorts of zones in order to procreate, that's all.

But, being fair-skinned doesn't in any way negate your Italian heritage. My best friend in Italy has red hair and freckles, and he's something like twentieth generation Italian........
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 01:58 PM
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16. I know weird huh? My point though, was we both have the same ancestry and look so different.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 02:03 PM
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18. No, it's not weird at all -
read my post again, and look at the geography, Italy's neighbors.

All countries are like this.................
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 02:21 PM
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21. It all depends on which genes come to the forefront -
My two older sisters and I all take after our dad, with his Black German/Eastern European looks, while my youngest sister jumps a generation back to my Mom's dad, with blond hair and blue eyes (actually G'pa had red hair). Anybody seeing the three older kids knows we're related, and see no relation with the youngest. Curiously, as she got older the youngest more and more resembled the rest of us - her hair darkened, and she had the same morphology. But when she was 5 people were always saying 'and whose little girl is this?'
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 02:29 PM
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22. Proof of the truth in the previous rely "change a couple genes..."
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WilmywoodNCparalegal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 02:33 PM
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24. Blonde and fair complexion Italian here
Edited on Fri Jul-17-09 02:34 PM by WilmywoodNCparalegal
saying hi!

:hi:
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 02:40 PM
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26. Paisan!
Greetings from your brown-haired, brown-eyed amica here................

:hi:
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FLAprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 01:03 PM
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2. wow....
people still believe that crap?
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BolivarianHero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 01:05 PM
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3. You must have shared an ivory tower with Bertrand Russell in a previous life...
He wrote some article about religion; not sure when he wrote it, but I do know that it was a few decades ago. One of his remarks was that nobody seriously believes that the world was created in 4004 BC. I live in liberal Canada, and I know tons of such people.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 01:09 PM
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4. She's Showing How "It Was"
I recall many of my parents generation who grew up in the 20s and 30s...a time when this country was extremely segregated...by religion, by race, by sex. I recall seeing "anthropology" books that all but defined the different races, "Mongoloid" and "Negroid" like they were different species...emphasizing physical differences; similar in many ways to what the Nazi were doing. Yes, it was an extremely racist time and many of those impressions last a lifetime.

May your mom be healthy and live many, many years, but remember she's part of a generation that had a lot more walls than we do and when her generation passes from the scene so will many of those wall...racism and sexism. My generation still carries a lot of stereotypes as well...homophobia being the most prominent, but too shall move along as time and age take their toll.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 01:09 PM
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5. You aren't related to Brian Kilmeade, by any chance?
The Faux News* analyst** reached deep down to come up with this gem:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=6016428&mesg_id=6016428

The reason Alzheimer's is a problem in America apparently, is that Americans keep marrying other species and ethnics. Not like the Swedes and Finns, who have 'pure' societies because they only marry fellow Swedes and Finns.

:wtf:

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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 01:13 PM
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6. Interesting. An inlaw of mine that is a Rush listener started saying
the same thing recently out of the blue. I'd like to know the direct connection because this person used to never speak that way to me.
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 01:23 PM
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7. Does she have a problem with, say, a buff colored cocker spaniel
mating with a black cocker? Or is she against a cocker mating with a poodle, for example?
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ThirdWorldJohn Donating Member (525 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 01:27 PM
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9. Hey Rush FYI - Polar bears and grizzley bears have mated in trhe wild. n/t
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 01:27 PM
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10. I hate to burst any racists bubbles but I have a lab mastiff mix
both are canine but are different .

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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 02:08 PM
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19. Both are the same species though.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 02:31 PM
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23. as are humans IMHO
:D
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 10:43 PM
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27. Oui!
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 01:30 PM
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11. Your mom said that?
What is her malfunction? Oh, that's right...you did say that she listens to Rush.
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 01:40 PM
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13. There was some knuckle-dragger on Fox a couple of days ago w/ a similar sentiment.
He said Americans were not pure because we "keep on marrying other species."

Here's the 25 second youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfOMGefMXTE
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 01:42 PM
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14. She probably got it from watching Brian Kilmeade on F*x News
who said something similar.
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 01:42 PM
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15. My MIL, born in 1911, would have thought the same thing
although I'm pretty sure she wouldn't have thought humans came from different species.

But anyway, she was born and raised in the South, and came North with certain attitudes, one of them concerning race. Till her dying day, at the age of 93, she always used the "n" word, and nobody could tell her any different.

Another issue was the religion...She was a Protestant.

Her youngest child, a daughter, married a Catholic back in 1965. They are still married to this day. Well! It became the Family Scandal back then.

One year I was writing up the Christmas cards. I don't pay attention to things like postage stamps, whatever. Well Mr Pip happens to see the stamps I'm using and then tells me I had better remove the one I stuck on the envelope of his mom's card. Because it's....

GASP!!!!

The Virgin Mary.

aiyeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


:scared:


sigh...

not wanting to freak out his mom and cause a stroke or something, I unstick the stamp and put another one on.

Someone else above mentioned the times...and generations...

It's what a lot of older people grew up with.



I have to say that in spite of the skewed attitudes, she really was a nice lady otherwise.

what can ya do...

:shrug:



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sharesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 01:59 PM
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17. Now, Men Versus Women? THOSE are different species. n/t
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brooklynite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 02:11 PM
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20. This isn't Rush; it's Brian Kilmeade at Fox News...
Fox News' Kilmeade: We "marry other species," Finns "pure"

Watching Fox News' morning show, "Fox and Friends," is a little bit like watching the aftermath of a particularly nasty car crash. Yeah, it's awful, but you just have to keep looking, because, well, who knows what mangled body parts they'll pull from the wreckage next?

Even by those standards, though, host Brian Kilmeade's performance on Wednesday was just terrible.

Kilmeade and two colleagues were discussing a study that, based on research done in Finland and Sweden, showed people who stay married are less likely to suffer from Alzheimer's. Kilmeade questioned the results, though, saying, "We are -- we keep marrying other species and other ethnics and other ..."

At this point, his co-host tried to -- in that jokey morning show way -- tell Kilmeade he needed to shut up, and quick, for his own sake. But he didn't get the message, adding, "See, the problem is the Swedes have pure genes. Because they marry other Swedes .... Finns marry other Finns, so they have a pure society."

http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/2009/07/08/qotd/


Wonder if he remembered that the Finns practice that "Old Europe thinking" socialism he detests...?
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 02:37 PM
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25. Your mother watches Fox News, poor dear.
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