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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 12:52 PM Original message |
Just what the hell is "Cheap plastic crap from China"? I keep |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
1. Remember back in the 50's and 60's when it was Japan? |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 12:58 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Try to buy ANYTHING that is not Made In China. |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 12:59 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. that was my point |
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Johonny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 01:43 PM Response to Reply #3 |
22. funny my Chinese GF loves American Apparel |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 01:54 PM Response to Reply #22 |
29. Yeah. Not funny. |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 02:46 PM Response to Reply #29 |
44. I thought it was funny when I was in Deutschland in 2001 |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 02:50 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. Good to know about Trek. |
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Johonny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 04:01 PM Response to Reply #29 |
57. I find it interesting |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 01:22 PM Response to Reply #1 |
15. It appears you dismissed "all that Chinese crap" as a diversion and "same old same old" |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 01:27 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. It is a diversion. Blame the furryners. Call their stuff crap |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 01:40 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. It's not "blame the furryners." What a bizarre interpretation. It's also about EXPLOITATION of labor |
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Cessna Invesco Palin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 02:22 PM Response to Reply #21 |
39. No it isn't. |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 02:43 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. Thank you for your generic bullshit argument. I am not "pretending they are all slave labor" |
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Cessna Invesco Palin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 06:41 PM Response to Reply #43 |
64. It's not a generic bullshit argument. |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 09:28 PM Response to Reply #64 |
68. "As you know, not all of the picture is as sunny as your propaganda version of it." |
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Kalyke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 02:35 PM Response to Reply #1 |
41. Toyota, Honda and Nissan suck ass. |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 03:10 PM Response to Reply #41 |
54. GM: bankrupt. Chrysler: bankrupt again. Ford: lucked out this time. nt. |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 07:11 PM Response to Reply #54 |
65. Keep loving those japanese cars |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 02:49 PM Response to Reply #1 |
46. actually even in the 1970s and 1980s it was Japan |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
2. People who support that system are not "victims" -- they are participants. |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 01:08 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. I am a shareholder because of my husband's 401K and pension. |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 01:18 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. Two glaring exceptions there: |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 01:26 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. I am not protected behind investment concerns if my job |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 01:51 PM Response to Reply #17 |
26. That's what I said. |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 01:56 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. I didn't mean to say my investment concerns are my first priority. |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 02:03 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. OIC. Thank you. I would love to see purchase power organized in this case. |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 12:59 PM Response to Original message |
5. It's bigger than that. Cheap labor is only one component |
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Tikki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 01:15 PM Response to Reply #5 |
11. Maybe we don't need hair dryers, either from Oligarch or Wal*Mart China.... |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 01:06 PM Response to Original message |
6. I believe that phrase is about the crazed consumerism that we are all exposed to from birth in this |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 01:15 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. OK, what is "stuff"? Is it a larger tv, a color tv instead of black& white, |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 02:57 PM Response to Reply #9 |
49. People rushed to buy flat screen TVs even if the colored set they've had for 3 years is still |
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peace13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 01:13 PM Response to Original message |
8. I'm going to redo my bathroom. |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 01:21 PM Response to Reply #8 |
14. How much control did you have in the decision to manufacture things overseas? |
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peace13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 03:05 PM Response to Reply #14 |
51. I had no control over the manufacturing decisions. |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 01:45 PM Response to Reply #8 |
24. You can find many of those things secondhand (including new, donated) or deep discounted |
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Curtland1015 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
10. Here ya go: |
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Cessna Invesco Palin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 01:16 PM Response to Original message |
12. Americans try to blame the developing world for their problems. |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 01:23 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. Huh? |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 02:02 PM Response to Reply #12 |
32. really? |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 02:07 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. As long as we claim that our jobs are gone because those |
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Cessna Invesco Palin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 02:18 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Yup. |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 02:58 PM Response to Reply #35 |
50. Who is doing that? |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 04:56 PM Response to Reply #35 |
61. we're blaming corporate mercenaries who fuck both ends of the process. |
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napoleon_in_rags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
19. I'll rec that. Classic Nash equalibrium, isn't it? |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 01:36 PM Response to Original message |
20. Americans DO NOT CARE about one another, and are kept together as a country by coercion |
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CBGLuthier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 01:45 PM Response to Original message |
23. I would wager all of these posts in this thread |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 01:53 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. It's not All or Nothing, black and white. People have purchase choices to make every day. |
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nebenaube (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
25. hmmm.... |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 01:53 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. If that is true, we must make the laws to steer them in that direction. |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 01:59 PM Response to Original message |
31. Yes these companies are the victims of their own stupid collective decisions. |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 02:04 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. China also holds the debt. This market will be allowed to do what the global |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 02:08 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. But, will the Chinese be smart enough not to kill the goose |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 02:21 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. It would seem so. |
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aint_no_life_nowhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 02:34 PM Response to Original message |
40. I can talk about guitars |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 02:35 PM Response to Original message |
42. The US has the largest manufacturing industry in the world. As of 2008 |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 02:48 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. Horseshit. US exports raw materials, China manufactures, maybe the high tech products are assembled |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 03:13 PM Response to Reply #45 |
55. Hope you feel better now. Sometimes it helps to just vent a little. |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 04:52 PM Response to Reply #55 |
59. hope you feel better blowing smoke |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 06:04 PM Response to Reply #59 |
62. Nothing like a fact-filled response to convince folks. n/t |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 09:27 PM Response to Reply #62 |
67. you're already convinced. |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 03:07 PM Response to Reply #42 |
53. at least get the label right: industrial sector != 'manufacturing' |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 03:22 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. You're right. Just trying to counter the "we don't make anything here anymore" meme. |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 02:52 PM Response to Original message |
48. It's the stuff most of us buy. Because, it is cheap. |
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tomreedtoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 03:05 PM Response to Original message |
52. If you want to know, read THIS book... |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 04:04 PM Response to Original message |
58. they love placing blame on the consumers |
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onethatcares (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 04:54 PM Response to Original message |
60. I got some slightly used Chinese drywall I'm willing to part with |
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Thothmes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 06:11 PM Response to Original message |
63. Its very similiar to the cheap plastic crap from Japan |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 07:13 PM Response to Original message |
66. The solution is to stop buying cheap plastic crap from China |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 09:31 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. Aye |
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