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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-24-09 10:50 PM
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WTF !!! - Torture Report RECOMMENDATIONS Redacted ???
Torture Report Recommendations Redacted
By Zachary Roth - August 24, 2009, 4:28PM

A good catch by McClatchy on the CIA torture report...

The 2004 report, by CIA Inspector General John Helgerson, contains ten recommendations for action on the part of the agency. But all ten are redacted. So we still don't know what the CIA's internal watchdog urged be done about torture -- including whether it recommended prosecutions.

Of course, the report had been released previously, but in an even more redacted form.

Late Update: Helgerson has issued a statement expressing disappointment that his recommendations were redacted.

Link: http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/08/torture_report_recommendations_redacted.php

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Here's the McClatchey piece (love the snark):

August 24, 2009
What the IG recommended about CIA interrogations

Actually, we don't get to know. The CIA Inspector General, in his May 2004 assessment of the CIA's secret detention program, made 10 recommendations. But every one of them is blacked out in the version of the report released Monday by the Obama administration.

The recommendations begin on Page 106 of the report and run through Page 109. But with the exception of the numerals every line is blacked out (somehow the person doing the blacking out missed a "g" at the end of a line on Page 107, but without more context, it's hard to know what word that might have been part of).

So here's what we get to know about the recommendations: No. 1 was the longest, filling all of Page 106 and a third of Page 107. No. 3 was the next longest, spilling over onto page 108. No. 5 was the shortest, edging out No. 4 by one line.


Link: http://blogs.mcclatchydc.com/washington/2009/08/what-the-ig-recommended-about-cia-interrogations.html

:banghead:

:crazy:

:wtf:


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noise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-24-09 11:22 PM
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1. From Helgerson's statement
Our review accepted and reported the judgment of Agency managers that a large amount of valuable intelligence was produced. However, we also observed that the Agency needed to answer more definitively the question of whether the particular interrogation techniques used were effective and necessary, or whether such information could be acquired using more traditional methods. Even at this late date, an independent panel of experts with backgrounds in interrogation should systematically evaluate the quality of the intelligence gained as related to the specific techniques used, or not used, in particular cases. This would clarify the value of the information and the utility of various approaches.

Former IG: Gov't Should Have Released Recommendations


AFAIK FBI agent Soufan's claim that legal interrogation methods were working hasn't been addressed. His claim refutes the entire basis of the torture program which was that all legal methods had been tried and failed.

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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-25-09 12:41 AM
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2. Thanks !!!
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