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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 01:11 PM
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I am sick and tired of hate
I'm sick of it - its a worthless emotion that does nothing but bring about tragedy and sadness.

Anger is one thing

Hate is quite another

And in the end, hate reduces us into the worst creatures humans can be

Hate gives us war, it gives us oppression, it gives us injustice

It is what drove Oppenheimer to work on the Atomic Bomb

It is what drove our invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq

It is what is driving Glen Beck and Rush Limbaugh

It is what is driving the astroturfers, birthers and teabaggers

And at times it has driven all of us

Myself, definitely included

But I'm sick of it

And I hope I will give it quarter in my heart no more
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 01:12 PM
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1. I know,
I hate it.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 01:12 PM
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2. LOL
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 01:12 PM
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3. i always tell people
i never hate, i just dislike.....
:hi:
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Creena Donating Member (501 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 01:16 PM
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7. I loathe a select few.
More than dislike, but never hatred. I do slip sometimes, but it doesn't fill my heart every moment of every day.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 01:12 PM
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4. Behind both anger and hatred is FEAR. That's the real enemy. nt
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 01:14 PM
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5. Right again.
It's hard to catch them taking our future out the back door when we're constantly afraid in the present. Fear makes hate.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 01:26 PM
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12. Yeah, I think it's going to take bravery on the part of our politicians...
...and on our part to reclaim this party, and this country.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 01:14 PM
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6. Anger is productive - hate is not
I can be angry at my government and change it

Out of hate, comes only death
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 01:27 PM
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13. I recall a Buddhist monk saying that anger is a motivator...
Edited on Sat Aug-29-09 01:27 PM by polichick
But it's important to act, not OUT of anger, but because of it.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 01:37 PM
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17. anger is most certainly NOT productive. When it is channeled into resolve, however
it can be very useful fuel.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 01:39 PM
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18. Depends - are you angry at SOMEONE or SOMETHING
Being angry at, say, ignorance is a good thing

Even being angry at someone for being ignorant is good

But hating them for it - not good
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 01:19 PM
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8. To be honest, you will find hate here at DU also
except ours is noble, self righteous, and justified so that makes it OK.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 01:22 PM
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9. And I am just as guilty as anyone for perpetuating that
Look through my history and you'll see I'm guilty

But I'm sick and tired of it

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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 02:07 PM
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21. See my post at #20.
:)
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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 01:24 PM
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10. Hate originates from fear and ignorance.
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david13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 01:26 PM
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11. I hate everybody. I hate everything. I hate the world. And there is
only one way out.
It is not that I am afraid of dying, I'm not. It's that I am afraid of living, I guess.
Or just tired of it.
It is just so much of the same old stuff over and over again, in one form or another.
I had heard that there was a giant particle accelerator that was being built in Switzerland/France that would, when it was started, start a chain reaction that would destroy the universe.
It didn't. I guess I was disappointed. That would have solved more problems that it created.
dc
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Chemisse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 06:02 PM
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26. You should get some help for that david13
There is no need for you to suffer like that. People can help you.
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JitterbugPerfume Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 01:30 PM
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14. Me too Taverner
I don't fully understand the hate, and I am just sick of it.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 01:30 PM
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15. Frankly, I do not care if people hate me or love me
Just treat me equally under the law, and mind your own business, this is all I ask. That is, of course, far too much to ask.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 01:34 PM
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16. Amen to that.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 01:52 PM
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19. Yes. I have learned from Teddy. Here I am today focused on just what you have stated.
I have spent too much time and energy hating. It's most refreshing to see that you have posted a statement and included yourself amongst the "guilty". :)

But Teddy's eulogies, stories, have me asking myself what he made of his life that I have failed to make of mine. As Obama said in his speech today, and as I also said to my mother last night, obviously he could have harbored resentment over the assassinations of his brothers. He was big. He shared. He cared.

I believe I know the answer. Someone made the statement about Teddy that it wasn't about him. The moment we make it about us, we become potential victims. I find this the hardest thing to overcome. For me, it's car noise. I've spent nearly two decades searching for silence. And I am offended that I have found it so difficult to simply find silence. But then, why is that disgusting me? I am offended because...I don't have the answers. There may be no answer. It may simply be that Teddy chose to care and share and rise above the lower levels.

We must rise above. And by doing so, I don't even want to say what I'm thinking. Maybe you can guess.
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 02:04 PM
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20. In the novel THE ASSAULT by Harry Mulisch
there is a moving scene which recognizes the probem of the dichotomy and dualism of light and dark / love and hate. It takes place in a pitch dark basement of a Nazi HQ. Truus, a Dutch resistance fighter is comforting a young boy who has been thrown in the cell w/ her. She starts off speaking about the sun, summer, the light, and a poem that she had meant to write before :


"In the poem I wanted to compare love to the kind of light you sometimes see clinging to trees right after a sunset: the magical sort of light. That's the kind of light people have inside them when they're in love with someone. Hate is the darkness, that's no good. And yet we've got to hate the Facists, and that's considered perfectly all right. How is that possible? It's because we hate them in the name of the light, I guess, whereas they hate only in the name of darkness. We hate hate itself, and for this reason our hate is better than theirs.

"But that's why it is more difficult for us. For them everything is very simple, but for us it's more complicated. We've got to become a little bit like them in order to fight them -- so we become a little bit unlike ourselves. But they don't have that problem; they can do away with us without any qualms. We first have to do away with something inside ourselves before we can do away with them. Not them; they can simply remain themselves, that's why they are so strong. But they'll lose in the end, because they have no light in them. The only thing is, we mustn't become too much like them, mustn't destroy ourselves altogether, otherwise they'll have won in the end . . . "
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 02:21 PM
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22. it is all relative to what areas r dominate in the brain, they know how to change that its insidious
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SidneyCarton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 02:24 PM
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23. Me too.
Hatred is an emotional/spiritual/psychological cancer it is as destructive to us as it is to those we direct it towards. I am tired of the vitriol, the insults, the endless, pointless sniping.
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Iterate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 04:04 PM
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24. Still, a lot of good eggs out there.
Doing battle all the time with the bad guys gets them into your head and fools you into thinking they amount to something, but it's just not so. Don't forget that 6 billion people didn't want Bush either.

It's a good day to look at the way the hate eats the haters up from the inside out and compare that to the way Teddy endured and flourished with his many acts of simple kindness.

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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 06:01 PM
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25. Teddy flourished because Love is life-giving
Hate will bring only darkness and hate

Don't believe me?

Look at Tony Snow's death and Ted Kennedy's.

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Hidden Stillness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 08:59 PM
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27. We are All Guilty; I am Guilty, Too
One thing the coverage of the death and funeral of beloved Ted Kennedy has reminded me of, is the great warmth and generosity of the entire Kennedy/Shriver etc. extended family. Over and over, I have been listening to stories of compassionate efforts to make people feel better, multiple family members jumping in to help during a crisis, kindness, listening, support--not only from Ted Kennedy, but recently also when there was coverage of Eunice Kennedy Shriver. This is a wonderful family. Like many others, I have also felt myself restored a little bit to a better thing that I was.

I think one big cause of bitter hate and a "sneering" attitude, at least for me, is when I get too fixated on many minute details that can't be answered or solved. It bothers me more and more, they build up, I get reduced to something smaller and pettier, and they all still remain. The media is so much meaner than it was when I was growing up--things that were unacceptable are now everywhere, and it is poisonous. Things you would have been criticized for, the victim is now made to "explain" or "account for." You now live in a media-world where you feel yourself looked at and attacked, where you once just went around in your own real world, not always self-conscious. The world is presented to you as the corporate media wants it, and it is polarized, laughing, yelling at your every opinion, very stressful, and no one wins but them anymore, so there is no happy sense of progress.

The long-range is gone, the public/cultural is gone, and I think that also pisses me off, that I never get anything expressed the way I think and know it, on any media. There are many studies, as many people know, showing how angry and resentful--at everything and nothing--people get, and how fearful, the more they listen to TV. People on TV are one-dimensional and nothing like real people in the world, and that has an effect of making you hate them, I think. They are always selling something, always fake, and I am increasingly sick of that. No depth, no distant ranges of thought, only quick and judgemental, always erasing and wiping away everything that ever was. I think that is stressful, too.

I get more hostile the less attention I give to other people's opinions, and their right to have them, so that you sometimes lock into a "fight" and don't even realize that it is a degraded attitude, and not the wider scope. We are surrounded by petty, manipulative, overly-fast, hyped, competitive, hostile game-playing, it is very wearing, and all of it goes against introverts and people with fears or gentleness.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 09:02 PM
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28. Me too.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 10:46 PM
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29. You sure know how to ruin a guys fun. Dang I hate you. Just kiddin. Rec 24. nt
Edited on Sat Aug-29-09 10:46 PM by rhett o rick
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