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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 11:48 AM
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Ensign (the rich bastard prick)
just said the reason we have a lower life expectancy than other nations is because of gun deaths.

Yep, America loves its guns, so that's why we die sooner. We are shot to death.

Now I get it. Forget health reform, let's just stop shooting each other.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 11:54 AM
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1. Clueless as ever......John never disappoints......
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 11:56 AM
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3. I can't believe anything he says.
I find it hard to believe that the 3rd largest employer in the world is British Government run medical care.
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KatyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 12:28 PM
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13. Apparently true, re NHS
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/health/article1050197.ece

But so what?

"John Reid, the Health Secretary, said he was delighted with the growth, but added that he was aware that more action was needed to tackle existing staff shortages.

“The NHS has more doctors, nurses, scientists and therapists than ever before — as we promised in the NHS plan,” he said. “Despite the record increases in numbers of doctors and nurses this year, I know the NHS still struggles with shortages in some specialties and we all have a lot more to do. I can’t create skilled medical professionals overnight but the Government is putting in place the training places needed for the future.”
(from the linked article)

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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 12:31 PM
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14. In no way am I saying there is something wrong with that.
I think it's great if that's the case, it just seemed unreal that they would be the third largest employer in the world.

Thanks for the link.
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KatyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 12:47 PM
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18. Sorry, my 'But so what?" wasn't directed at you,
Edited on Tue Sep-29-09 12:47 PM by KatyMan
but at Ensign. Sorry for the confusion!

Edited to properly quote myself...
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 11:58 AM
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8. Corrupt, not clueless.
No one is really that dumb.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 11:59 AM
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9. That's a good point.
He's just a whore with a pimp.
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jdlh8894 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 11:55 AM
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2. "let's just stop shooting each other"
Sounds like a DAMN good idea to me!
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 11:57 AM
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6. Ensign should stop first.... n/t
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rubberducky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 11:56 AM
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4. Car accidents and gun deaths are our undoing according to this idiot.
In other words we drive too much and we shoot too many people.
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triple point Donating Member (108 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 11:56 AM
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5. In my 67 years I have seen a lot of death...family & friends. Exactly ONE by gunshot...
suicide by an old friend who was suffering from bone cancer.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 11:58 AM
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7. I grew up rough.
I've seen people die, with guns and without. Maybe if these poor people I grew up with had more options and less guns, the outcome would have been different.

God I hate this guy.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 12:10 PM
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10. is`t that the guy who was fucking his friends wife?
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 12:24 PM
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12. That would be the guy.
So we know that he would never, ever lie.
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 12:13 PM
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11. Ensign's been firing LOTS of loads lately...
:evilgrin:
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 12:33 PM
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15. He makes a good argument for gun control AND health care reform.
Gun control so less people get shot.

And health care reform so more people who get shot live.

Thanks John!

:hi:
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 12:35 PM
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16. So, where's his legislation?
I eagerly await Mr. Ensign's legislation to outlaw private ownership of all firearms more modern than those available in 1787. That is, if he's serious about this. Otherwise, I'd have to say that he's just running his mouth and shouldn't be listened to by any reasonable person.

So, when is his next appearance on Fox?
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 12:36 PM
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17. In 2006, there were 30,896 gun deaths in the U.S
So if we just minus that amount the country has a better life expectancy number than nations with national health? Not likely.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 01:10 PM
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19. Gun deaths and car accidents which "have nothing to do with health care". I. Hate. Him. nt
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 01:13 PM
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20. Makes me glad I'm not from Nevada.
What's worse is this guy will probably get re-elected.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 01:32 PM
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22. I was going to post a thread asking Nevadans (?) how they thought his chances
would be next election.

Why aren't these assholes run out of town???
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 01:36 PM
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23. Nevada has a big, redneck fundamentalist streak.
I was there a lot for the primaries and you'd be surprised at some of the views of some of the people I talked to.

I had school teachers tell me they were convinced Bill or Hillary Clinton killed Vince Foster. Nuff said?
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 01:43 PM
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24. Whoa --
Nuff said. :scared:
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 01:13 PM
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21. You know that the Insurance Lobbies are powerful...
when a Republican Senator fears them more than the gun lobbies!
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