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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 10:01 PM
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So - no Public Option but we will still be fined for not paying parasitic insurance companies
As the 'Health Care reform' bill stands today.

I'm just fuming.
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liskddksil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 10:02 PM
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1. Sorry Obama - but if thats the bill - I'm absolutely opposed
Let it fail and we'll be forced to have single payer as more and more people lose their private insurance.
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 10:03 PM
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2. well then, enough of us will have to organize and refuse to pay
n/t
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 10:11 PM
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5. Hopefully there will be many lawsuits
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daleanime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 10:15 PM
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7. No need for that...
the first day that I'm required to buy 'private' health insurance is the day I show up at the local court house and demand to be put in jail:mad:
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 10:04 PM
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3. it ain't over
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 10:12 PM
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6. I know. It's just where it stands right now.
It should be motivating us all to loudly demand better.
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rd_kent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 10:06 PM
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4. But thats not "as the health care reform bill stands today"
Thats how the Senate Finance Committee's bill stands today, but there IS NO FINAL bill. All of the other committee's bills HAVE the PO, so just chill out and wait for the FINAL BILL!
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 10:18 PM
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10. No final bill, that's where it stands today. No PO Yes Mandate.
as reported on NPR.

And NO I WILL NOT CHILL OUT AND WAIT. I will hound my congress-people regularly and try to motivate others to do the same.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 10:17 PM
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8. What I want to know is how they plan on enforcing a mandate?
How will they check if people have insurance? When applying for a job like Clinton suggested?

How will they collect the fines and what will they do to people who can't pay the fines? Jail? Wage garnishments?

How in the world do they imagine that people who can't afford insurance will somehow magically have money for a fine? These idiots live in some kind of charmed world where a couple thousand dollars is pocket money.

Arrrgh.
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saged52 Donating Member (344 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 10:17 PM
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9. What happens if
one does not/can not purchase mandated coverage, gets fined and either pays the fine or does not pay the fine? What is the next step?
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Zavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 10:21 PM
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11. Jail, apparently.
It's in the current bill.
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Hoopla Phil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 12:33 AM
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12. And if you don't pay the fine you go to jail. Debtor's prison is back.
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