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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 09:35 AM
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Sarah Palin's ghost writer pallies around with White Supermacists and Neo-Nazi's..
Edited on Wed Sep-30-09 09:36 AM by HipChick
Sarah Palin’s Book Ghostwritten by Associate of White Supremacist McCain

Sarah Palin’s soon-to-be-released book was ghostwritten by Lynn Vincent.

Who’s Lynn Vincent? She’s the co-author of a book with white supremacist blogger Robert Stacy McCain.

Vincent is also a credited author on “Donkey Cons: Sex, Crime, and Corruption in the Democratic Party,” a take-down of the Democrats co-written by conservative author Robert Stacy McCain.

Robert Stacy McCain’s has connections to neo-Nazis and white supremacist organizations

Robert Stacy McCain’s feelings on the subject of interracial marriage.

“the media now force interracial images into the public mind and a number of perfectly rational people react to these images with an altogether natural revulsion. The white person who does not mind transacting business with a black bank clerk may yet be averse to accepting the clerk as his sister-in-law, and THIS IS NOT RACISM, no matter what Madison Avenue, Hollywood and Washington tell us.”
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 09:39 AM
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1. Duh.
:shrug:
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-01-09 01:38 AM
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28. or as she calls them, my peeps.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-01-09 05:08 PM
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30. Exactly. Wouldn't she have someone of like mind to ghost-write for her?
Duh.
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Laf.La.Dem. Donating Member (924 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 09:42 AM
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2. This is a BIG surprise??
:mad:
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 09:46 AM
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3. Are there any links
that back up what you're saying? This is a serious charge and I would like to see the proof for myself.
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Quasimodem Donating Member (259 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 09:59 AM
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6. Hold your nose,because even Little Green Footballs seems appalled.
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MajorChode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 10:00 AM
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7. Robert Stacy McCain is a member of the League of the South
I wouldn't call them a "white supremacy group" although I'm pretty sure the group has more than its share of racists, just as any southern culture and heritage group is likely to attract.

McCain explained his membership as "when in Rome, do as the Romans do". Well, there are a lot of racists in Rome, GA and I suspect McCain was one of them and probably still is.
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 10:14 AM
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13. The SPLC characterized them as a White Nationalist group. I personally don't
know much about this organization. That's wha tI've read so far. If the quote below reg. interracial marriage really came from this guy then I suspect you're right.
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MajorChode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 10:20 AM
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15. Make no mistake, you can certainly make the case that McCain is a racist
Just based on his own writings and not his associations.

I just don't know that you can make the case that he's a white supremacist or involved in a white supremacist group. Personally I suspect he might be, but he has to maintain some distance from extremism in order to stay involved in writing for main stream publications (if you can call things like the Washington Times mainstream).

It's not as if Palin's ghostwriter also wrote for the leader of the American Nazi Party, but I'm not sure McCain is much worse, particularly because he pretends not to be something he clearly is.
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 10:19 AM
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14. well, no offense to the many progressives in the South
and yes there are many, BUT.... groups like this tend to attract quite a lot of racist asshats who complain about having lost the "second American Revolution" or "War of Northern Aggression" and often play into a lot of the mythology of "the South will rise again" garbage.

Sorry, but it's true. I realize I am generalizing, but having grown up with that crap it bothers me quite a bit.
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MajorChode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 10:23 AM
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17. I would agree, but I think it's a bit much to call them white supremecy groups
Not all of their members are racists or white supremacists (although that's certainly a great start).
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 12:25 PM
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20. League of the South is explicitly secessionist and includes racists
My recollection is that there have been a variety of shakeups on the right over the past few years, and it's possible that some of the more overt racists have left the League of the South since the 90's.

However, they were definitely there at the start -- and I do find among some notes on the racist right that I collected just a few years ago a post by someone who signed himself "white-patriot" saying he worked "through groups like the CofCC and the League of the South."

http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?pid=211
Expanding on his old professor's controversial view that the South was different from the North because its population was "Celtic," Hill published two books on Celtic history in the early 1990s. Finally, in 1994, he went public, creating the Southern League (the name was a takeoff on the separatist Northern League of Italy, but had to be changed after a baseball league of the same name threatened to sue).

Started with 40 people, what would be renamed the League of the South* included four men with Ph.D.s on its board, along with Jack Kershaw, who was once active in the segregationist White Citizens Council in Nashville and who remains on the board today.

Hill's league started out complaining about the media treatment of white Southerners, but quickly developed into a racist group calling for secession, attacking egalitarianism, calling antebellum slavery "God-ordained," opposing racial intermarriage, and defending segregation as a policy designed to protect the integrity of both races.


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MajorChode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 01:00 PM
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25. There's no question the group is led by nutbags
And McCain's attempt to downplay the group as nothing more than a group dedicated to southern heritage and culture certainly appears nefarious. That's why I find it very hard to believe McCain isn't a racist and may be far worse, but whatever he is he chooses to at least maintain the appearance of being something else. However, I'm not sure that trying to associate Palin with him through a common ghostwriter is much more than guilt by association and not even that strong of an association.
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Quasimodem Donating Member (259 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 09:47 AM
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4. So what is the book's title?
"Real Americans" by Sarah Palin, as told to her by Lynn Vincent.

Why is it that when you actually take a look at these white supremacists, they are always of such a damned inferior quality?

Never mind.
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Mrs. Overall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 09:48 AM
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5. Makes me curious as to the quality of writing (though I'm sure it is better than Palin could do).
Edited on Wed Sep-30-09 10:02 AM by Mrs. Overall
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 10:09 AM
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12. I doubt Palin can write much more than a sentence, certainly not 2
that are connected.
I doubt Sarah will be able to read her "own" book.

The next GOP Presidential Candidate in 2012.

mark

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Brewman_Jax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 10:02 AM
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8. No shock there
:eyes:
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 10:05 AM
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9. color me not surprised.
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 10:06 AM
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10. Welcome to DU.
Good posting.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 10:07 AM
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11. Eeeeuuuurrrrrgggghhhhhh
I am so glad that she never got anywhere near the presidency. I hope she never does.

I hate the far right with the incandescence of a hundred burning suns, and despise all who collaborate with them.

Is Robert Stacy McCain any relation to John McCain?
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Quasimodem Donating Member (259 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 10:28 AM
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18. In a word, "No."
"In January 2008, McCain ... subsequently began blogging about the 2008 presidential race as "The Other McCain," frequently targeting Sen. John McCain, whom he refers to as "Crazy Cousin John," though they are not relatives." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Stacy_McCain">Wikipedia
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 10:21 AM
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16. kick and recommend!!
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felinetta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 11:58 AM
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19. I hope this gets repeated over and over on the news cycles. Wonder how Fox will cover it.
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 12:31 PM
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21. Is anyone else familiar with Joscelyn Godwin's "Arktos"?
Edited on Wed Sep-30-09 01:00 PM by starroute
The subtitle is "The Polar Myth in Science, Symbolism, and Nazi Survival."

It hadn't occurred to me before -- but this thread is making me wonder whether the Alaskan Independence Party and some of the other fringe right-wing groups that Palin has connections with may not just be getting off on the Last Frontier image of the state but might be attracted to Alaska because of the whole Nazi Arctic mythos. Kind of a last refuge when the degenerate south plunges into racial apocalypse.

I haven't read the Godwin in a few years, but I'll flip through it and see whether anything there rings any bells.


On edit: I can't find anything definite. For anyone who's interested, the Wikipedia article on Julius Evola, which notes both his fascist affinities and his attachment to the idea of an "Aryan" origin at the North Pole as contrasted with the corrupting influence of the South, indicates the direction I'm looking. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_Evola

But I can't find anything to suggest that the Alaskan separatists or survivalists have been particularly influences by that particular sub-strain of fascist belief.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 12:32 PM
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22. Doesn't surprise me a bit - Palin IS a racist after all
Sure, she's never been quoted being a racist, but she sure likes to pal around with them

And if you lie down with dogs, you get fleas
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 12:34 PM
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23. ASSOCIATIONS!!!!
ASSOCIATIONS!!!!
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 12:40 PM
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24. I have to wonder ...



Will the reactionary RW nutjobs who wet their pants about their perceived connection between
Obama and Bill Ayers be similarly incontinent about this Failin/Vincent association?


Never mind .... I know the answer.





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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 09:02 PM
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26. Rachel Maddow did a piece on this tonight..
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 09:04 PM
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27. I don't think anybody could have predicted this.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-01-09 01:43 AM
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29. Remember that snapshot of Palin's desk with the John Birch Society
magazine on it?
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-01-09 05:27 PM
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31. Thanks for the heads-up.
It's like when old times are not forgotten: Today's GOP, where the KKK and the NAZI are always welcome.

Who’s Lynn Vincent? She’s the co-author of a book with white supremacist blogger Robert Stacy McCain.

A hearty welcome to DU, HipChick!
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-01-09 05:46 PM
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32. Tiny brains cling to each other. n/t
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