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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 09:49 AM
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Want to know how we can really "win" in Afghanistan? Its simple as hell
Edited on Sun Oct-04-09 09:58 AM by NNN0LHI
Just have our military start at one end of the country and kill anything that moves as they march to the other side. Any women, children or elderly men that happen to live through the bullets and bombs need to be rounded up and put onto reservations.

Then we repopulate the entire country with people who we like better.

Thats exactly what the Europeans did to the Native Americans and any other non-Anglo when they came to America. Hell, even former slaves joined in with us. Remember them brave Buffalo Soldiers? It was brutal as hell but you have to admit that it did work. We are the descendants of the people who pulled that off.

Hell they even had a name for it back then. It was called Manifest Destiny.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manifest_Destiny

Manifest Destiny

Manifest Destiny is a term that was used in the 19th century to designate the belief that the United States was destined, even divinely ordained, to expand across the North American continent, from the Atlantic seaboard to the Pacific Ocean. Sometimes Manifest Destiny was interpreted so broadly as to include the eventual absorption of all North America: Canada, Mexico, Cuba and Central America. Advocates of Manifest Destiny believed that expansion was not only ethical but that it was readily apparent ("manifest") and inexorable ("destiny"). Although initially used as a catch phrase to inspire the United States' expansion across the North American continent, the 19th century phrase eventually became a standard historical term.

The term, which first appeared in print in 1839, was used in 1845 by a New York journalist, John L. O'Sullivan, to urge for the annexation of Texas. Thereafter, it was used to encourage American settlement of European colonial and Indian lands in the Great Plains and the west. It was revived in the 1890s, this time with Republican supporters, as a theoretical justification for U.S. expansion outside of North America. The term fell out of usage by U.S. policy makers early in the 20th century, but some commentators believe that aspects of Manifest Destiny, particularly the belief in an American "mission" to promote and defend democracy throughout the world, continues to have an influence on American political ideology.


I am not recommending that we do this. On the contrary I think we should leave that country immediately. Actually I was against going there in the first place. My posts are still available here from back before we invaded if someone wants to do a search. But I was one of only a few who were against it. Hell back then Bush had a +90 percent approval rating. If he had said we needed to attack Canada I think most Americans would have been fine with the idea.

Well there it is. Thats the solution. And the only one that will work. Now ask yourself one question. Are you for doing to the Afghans what was done to the Native Americans? Because that is what will have to be done to actually "win" over there.

Don

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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 09:54 AM
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1. As you know, the US doesn't really care about the Afghan people
"Winning" means controlling the country long enough to profit from its strategic location, resources and the money that can be made off the occupation.
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soryang Donating Member (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 10:13 AM
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2. Bingo! Pentagon contractor revenues need to be greater than...
Edited on Sun Oct-04-09 10:15 AM by soryang
...the 72 percent of the Defense budget achieved during the Bush diaster. The Cheney Rumsfeld privatization of war continues. No need to guarantee that the war "surge" will be funded. The win is to trash the US government budget so badly that our "creditors' can demand that Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid can be dismantled.
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mikehiggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 10:13 AM
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3. Can we win in Afghanistan? No
No one else did, including our old enemies/new friends the Russkies, the Brits, Alexander the Great and so on and so forth. A fool's errand caused by a fool, our old buddy Georgie the draft dodger.
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 10:14 AM
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4. That's what the Russians tried to do.
Kill 'em or make 'em move to Pakistan or Iran. IIRC over 1 million people were displaced during the Russian invasion.
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 10:30 AM
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5. Afghanis Have No Beef with the US
once we leave them alone. No need to kill everyone. All we need is for elements that are actually dangerous, such as Al-Qaida, to not operate freely there.

No reason Afghanistan can't have a government supported by the people without endangering US security. Even if the Taliban were to win the election, the US can deal with them. They offered, at least as a negotiating point, to turn over bin Laden, but Bush wouldn't enter into negotiations.
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 10:34 AM
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6. We're already doing that.




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