Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

How about this for some financial INNOVATION?

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
 
TheCoxwain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 10:22 AM
Original message
How about this for some financial INNOVATION?
Edited on Mon Oct-05-09 10:27 AM by TheCoxwain
Ingredients:

1 Perfectly Good Company ( good balance sheet,great products)
3~4 Private Equity Firms
50%+ Lawmakers Friendly to Deregulation


Mix all the ingredients together - You will end up with

Rich Investment Bankers
Lawmakers with overflowing campaign chests

Investors holding their bags
Employees tossed aside like used condoms
A raped and a pillaged company.


What am I talking about?



Read more http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/05/business/economy/05simmons.html?_r=1&hp


I am not posting a snip ... as I want you to read the article and see how Blood Sucking Leaches and Maggots pass of as "FINANCIAL INNOVATORS"... These despicable creatures are hollowing out America from within. And all of it is perfectly legal !!!!



Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 10:58 AM
Response to Original message
1. K&R
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 10:59 AM
Response to Original message
2. They made a movie about this in the 1980s
It was called Wall Street.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 10:59 AM
Response to Original message
3. GREED!
America has long been about greed, it goes way back to when this country started to expand if not before.

Today in America there is only one thing that matters...




Profit for the shareholder in the current quarter. Nothing else matters.

Executives will max out the lending limits or sell everything if that is what it takes to show a profit for the current quarter not worrying about the next quarter until then.



GREED killed America!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 11:07 AM
Response to Original message
4. I posted the snip...
And implored everyone to read the whole thing.

This is the LBO's and junk bonds from the 80's still inoperation, and this sort of nonsense has been the primary engine for gutting our industrial base and destroying good-paying jobs.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=6699992&mesg_id=6699992


In most cases there's nothing particularly unprofitable about these companies, until these swindlers load them up with debt and then proceed to bleed them dry, shuffling as much cash into their own pockets as they can get away with.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 11:10 AM
Response to Original message
5. Same story, back in '92:
Edited on Mon Oct-05-09 11:15 AM by JHB
A book to look up. Chapter 1 is online (see below)

America: What Went Wrong?
by James B Steele, Donald L. Barlett
Paperback: 252 pages
Publisher: Andrews McMeel Publishing (January 1, 1992)
ISBN: 0836270010
"Worried that you are falling behind, not living as well as you once did?..."
http://www.amazon.com/America-Wrong-Donald-L-Barlett/dp/0836270010/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpt_4

Chapter 1 of "America: What Went Wrong" can be found here:
http://www.politicalindex.com/wrong1.htm
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 11:12 AM
Response to Original message
6. It's them against us.
People that haven't figured that out are still asleep.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Omaha Steve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 06:00 PM
Response to Original message
7. K (#4) + R!

Great post.

OS

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 09:08 PM
Response to Original message
8. Kick for the night shift. This is good stuff for people to understand
Working people are being hurt. People are being impoverished. It is NOT through their own actions like the GOP suggests.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 09:10 PM
Response to Original message
9. Used condoms....got that right !
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 09:36 PM
Response to Original message
10. Legal. It's all legal. Stories like this make me want to cry from exasperation. How can
we make these alleged human beings who do this stuff pay out the nose?

These people make their millions and become invisible. No one knows where they are or what they have done. But they're living like kings after destroying the lives of hard-working people. And they're undermining the foundations of our nation for their personal enrichment.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 09:51 PM
Response to Original message
11. this is but a small example of the major problems with our unregulated economy --
the real problem is that as soon as you go public, you open the door for others to come in and ruin your company.

if you prudently avoid debt, others will see that you are underleveraged relative to your industry peers, and if times are good, you can make more money by borrowing more to earn even more. i.e., you are undervalued relative to your industry peers, and are therefore a takeover target.

you can't win once you go public. you give up control and you have to go with the industry standard flow, no matter how stupid or short-sighted it is. yes, to some extent, you can put your own mark on your company, but you can't diverge too much from the norm.

even if you retain 50+% voting control, you still can't ignore the minority shareholders. they can sue if you don't act in their interests.


want to retain prudent, low levels of debt? don't go public, ever.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Tue Apr 30th 2024, 03:00 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC