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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-11-09 11:55 AM Original message |
TIME: Obama's Gay Outreach: All Talk, No Action |
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joeycola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-11-09 12:00 PM Response to Original message |
1. "he said nothing specific" that has been the proble all along. |
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thunder rising (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-11-09 12:01 PM Response to Original message |
2. Missed point. Attending and speaking at the HRC was action. The President sets the tone. |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-11-09 12:50 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. This isn't 1990 |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-11-09 01:21 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. What did he risk by speaking to the HRC? |
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Zix (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-11-09 01:27 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. It might be more apropos to consider what the gay community gained. |
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joeycola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-11-09 01:43 PM Response to Reply #2 |
21. The 'tone' was delays and continue as second class citizens. |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-11-09 06:50 PM Response to Reply #2 |
51. "Action" is the Commander in Chief continuing to allow discharges of gay svs members for no other |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-11-09 12:02 PM Response to Original message |
3. I call it "the speecharound" |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-11-09 01:23 PM Response to Reply #3 |
11. Very good and apt. |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-11-09 12:02 PM Response to Original message |
4. I love these folks making up their minds for good after 8.5 months of the first term |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-11-09 01:24 PM Response to Reply #4 |
12. Oh, just . . . BARF! |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-11-09 03:40 PM Response to Reply #12 |
23. Young Mr. Rosen's words are music to the ears of the people you should despise the most |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-11-09 03:52 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. Of course they are but |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-11-09 04:59 PM Response to Reply #26 |
37. When they're right they're right. |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-11-09 07:12 PM Response to Reply #12 |
53. after a year it will turn into "during his first term" |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-11-09 01:33 PM Response to Reply #4 |
17. I understand the anger |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-11-09 02:25 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. You understand nothing. |
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armyowalgreens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-11-09 05:10 PM Response to Reply #4 |
44. Yep, we should all just sit back and accept the status quo. Thanks for the pick me up. |
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asdjrocky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-11-09 05:13 PM Response to Reply #4 |
47. Should have done it on the very first day and gotten it out of the way. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-11-09 12:58 PM Response to Original message |
6. "There is no way Barack Obama will win the Nobel Peace Prize? |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-11-09 01:02 PM Response to Original message |
7. Time magazine has a definite political agenda -- and it is not a progressive agenda |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-11-09 01:16 PM Response to Original message |
8. Maybe see what he does by the end of this first year? |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-11-09 01:25 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. He's already given us a date of 2017. |
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Zix (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-11-09 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
10. Is Time pro-gay, particularly? |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-11-09 01:31 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. I was just wondering (and writing) that same thing...... |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-11-09 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
15. Hey: |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-11-09 01:38 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. dunno |
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Zix (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-11-09 01:42 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. Abso-friggin. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-11-09 01:40 PM Response to Original message |
19. TIME is instigating against this President....... |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-11-09 03:46 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. Excellent point, Frenchie..and those who want to |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-11-09 04:00 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. What is divisive about demanding equal rights? |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-11-09 04:07 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. President Obama wants them, too..or doesn't that |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-11-09 04:15 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. It was my impression that DU's position is officially pro gay marriage. |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-11-09 04:37 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. My position is that President Obama wants |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-11-09 04:58 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. He hasn't done anything meaningful yet. |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-11-09 07:43 PM Response to Reply #34 |
55. Yes, he is in a position to help and yet continues to discharge gays from the armed forces |
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Neecy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-11-09 04:19 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. He has yet to prove that |
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Proud Liberal Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-11-09 05:09 PM Response to Reply #32 |
43. WHAT exactly could he have done? |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-11-09 05:13 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. He hasn't even endorsed Murphy's bill yet |
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Proud Liberal Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-11-09 06:19 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. Why does he need to endorse a bill |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-11-09 07:08 PM Response to Reply #48 |
52. because that's what Presidents do |
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Proud Liberal Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-11-09 07:52 PM Response to Reply #52 |
57. I don't know exactly what his strategy is in regards to DADT |
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armyowalgreens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-11-09 05:13 PM Response to Reply #24 |
45. And the cheerleading continues. |
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Neecy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-11-09 03:48 PM Response to Reply #19 |
25. We don't need Time magazine to fuel our anger |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-11-09 03:56 PM Response to Reply #19 |
27. John Cloud is gay. n/t |
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-11-09 04:16 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. So what has that got to do with the price of tea in China? |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-11-09 05:00 PM Response to Reply #31 |
39. The person she responded to called him a corporate whore. |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-11-09 06:32 PM Response to Reply #31 |
50. It means he didn't get his pony. n/t |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-11-09 07:30 PM Response to Reply #50 |
54. Civil rights = "pony"? nt |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-11-09 07:46 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. That's what I've been hearing for the past couple of years. n/t |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 04:48 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. These user names kill me. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 04:47 PM Response to Reply #31 |
58. Frenchie Cat said he was piggybacking on the misery of others. |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-11-09 04:55 PM Response to Reply #19 |
35. Try waking up someday. |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-11-09 05:05 PM Response to Reply #35 |
41. "Waking up"? Just bc someone doesn't agree with you? |
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Proud Liberal Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-11-09 05:00 PM Response to Reply #19 |
40. Good point. That is the corporate mediawhore "way" |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-11-09 05:08 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. How many times have they done this? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 04:51 PM Response to Reply #42 |
60. OMFG. People demanding their constitutional rights. |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-11-09 04:28 PM Response to Original message |
33. You know only "Obama haters" read TIME. |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-11-09 05:00 PM Response to Reply #33 |
38. that's what I've heard |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-11-09 06:28 PM Response to Reply #33 |
49. It would appear - |
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