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denem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 09:15 AM
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GOP: How long till the Teabaggers take over?
I used to be confident that the Old Money / Big Money 'powers that be' would keep The Base in line. But that was some time ago, before Beck, Palin, Joe the Whatever. None of them has enough grey matter to cover a tea coaster, but sooner or later a genuine scum bag will emerge, with a good enough Rove to go for broke.

Will anyone even to try to call out the Empire's New Clothes?
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Bonhomme Richard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 09:17 AM
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1. I don't think they will be allowed to take over.
I do think that they are currently useful idiots to the GOP leadership.
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denem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 09:19 AM
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3. That's the conventional wisdom. I'm beginning to doubt it.
Edited on Tue Oct-13-09 09:22 AM by denem
If Palin had 30 more points IQ and was less willfully ignorant ...
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 09:40 AM
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9. Even 30 points give too much credit to her, I think. What a fool she is... n/t
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denem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 09:41 AM
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10. No arguments from me on that.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 10:13 AM
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21. If she had 30 more IQ points, I doubt she'd be a Republican. nt
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 09:37 AM
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8. +1000
and for all their noise, the teabag crowd knows what side their bread is buttered on...with no secret funding from party sources, access to sympathetic beltway power brokers and favorable media coverage, they will disappear overnight..
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 09:19 AM
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2. You mean they haven't already?
Edited on Tue Oct-13-09 09:27 AM by derby378
I say the sooner the teabaggers metastasize throughout the party, the sooner the party itself will implode and stop being a presence on the national stage. More's the better for Democrats.
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denem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 09:21 AM
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4. Well ... who will stop them?
Rush? Billo? Glen?
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 09:43 AM
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11. The republicans arent very smart. When Hitler used the Brown Shirts he got rid of them
when he was done. Replacing the disorganized rabble rousing Brown Shirts with the SS, an elite group that was answerable to the Fuhrer. When bush-the-boy-king got power, the cabal should have dumped the wacko right wing fundies and used Blackwater as their SS. But fortunately their greed and ego's get in the way of their thinking.

Either of two things will happen. The smart republicans (not intended as an oxymoran)will recognize that they need to take back their party. But it looks like too late for that. Or, the smart republicans will work to hijack the Democratic Party and make it a corporatist party.

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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 09:27 AM
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5. Old money is deserting the GOP for the Democrats
That can be a good thing (Obama elected...YAY!) and that can be a bad thing (Blue Dogs....BOO!)
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kenfrequed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 09:33 AM
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7. It was a mixed thing
It did lead to democratic support for the banking industry. Well that and Goldman Sachs massive donations.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 09:51 AM
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14. It isnt a good thing. We don't want the money influence in our party.
They may help us elect a Democrat, but they will pressure that Democrat to support their issues and not ours.

We are in a class war. The Democrat vs. Republican battle is a distraction. As is the black vs. white, legal vs. illegal, and demonization of the LGBT community.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 06:44 PM
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25. That's always there - one of the reasaons I don't like Pure Capitalism
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Altoid_Cyclist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 09:32 AM
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6. Here's a LTTE in the local paper from a "teagagger" upset by the term.
If the idiots didn't want to be known as teabaggers, why did they insist on using the term to begin with? Is it possible that it never occurred to them that they would be called teabaggers even though they are the "teabagparty.org?

http://teabagparty.org/


http://www.altoonamirror.com/page/content.detail/id/523326.html?nav=737

:eyes:

:crazy:

:dunce:
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 09:46 AM
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12. Man, this is pretty pathetic!
From the Teabaggers' website:

Need a Tea Bag? We'll Send You One If you don't have a tea bag handy, and don't want to have to buy a whole box of them, we can help. Send a Self Adressed<sic> Stamped Envelope to Tea Bag Protest, P.O. Box 9459, Naperville, IL 60567 and we'll return it to you with a free tea bag inside. If you prefer, you can address the return envelope to your chosen representative in D.C. (along with a signed letter) and we will forward it to them directly.

I mean, I know times are hard but can't afford a teabag but can provide a SASE?
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sfwriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 09:53 AM
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15. I disassemble this here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=6761033&mesg_id=6761033

We planned to teabag the president before they did. I link to early DU posts calling for teabaggings. The difference is, we aren't sexual prudes and homophobes, so the term is merely funny.

Teabaggers have met the perfect storm of the ignorant and the wryly ironic.
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Altoid_Cyclist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 03:06 PM
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24. I'm not sure if anyone keeps track of this statistic.
I would be willing to bet that this area has one of the highest
homophobes per capita ratio in the country.

I just wish that I could have seen the expression on his face when the letter writer was informed what the expression means to a lot of people.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 09:47 AM
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13. The teabaggers are just as angry as we are at the rip-off that has occurred.
They are just unclear on who ripped us off.

(I'm a bit confused about it as well....)
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 09:59 AM
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17. I can understand your confusion. There is a lot of misdirection thrown about.
But as I see it, it is simple. There are two sides to this war. Not Democrat vs. Republican, not black vs. white, etc. The two sides are the wealthy class against the rest of us. Until that is recognized, we dont have a chance. With their help we keep fighting each other.

As an example. Why does all the media favor the wealthy corporatists? Because they have the money to own the media. Apparently there isnt a single wealthy individual or group that favors us or they would own a network. But rich liberals dont seem to want to put their money where their mouths are.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 10:04 AM
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19. They think the "government" is ripping them off.
When they are out of money, who continues
to exploit them?

They don't get it.


So many of them are
PROFITING from the very "entitlements"
that they are raging against.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 10:17 AM
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22. I see an analogy here
The teabaggers are the poor cowardly kids on the play ground. They give their lunch money to the bully (CorpAmerica) in exchange for "protection". Of course the bully convinces them that their enemy is the brown kids, or the handycapped kids, or the gay kids or the intellectual kids. So the cowardly teabaggers are standing behind the bully, routing em on whenever the bully (Cheney) beats up the weaker kids. If the intellectual kid tries to explain to the cowards that they are being exploited, they still choose to go with the bully.

Not the greatest analogy i admit.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 09:54 AM
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16. Interesting question. Probably the answer is never.
Here's why: The moderate GOOPer elected goofballs still believe that they must have the baggers and other wingers on their side to get elected. They could be right. But...the right-wing morons just keep getting louder and more obnoxious by the week. Eventually, they will drive moderate Republican voters away. Either those voters will simply skip the polls or they'll vote for non-GOOPers.

Further, the super-wingers are on the verge of doing stupid things. Some of them already have. As they act out in violent ways, they will further discredit the "base" of the party. Morons like Palin also help. Anyone with a brain can see that she's a moron. Same with Bachmann. I fully expect her to lose badly in 2010, given that it was very close in 2008. All that's needed is some dedication on the part of the DFL here in MN and not too much division on the Democratic side, and she's toast.

Finally, the economic crisis and health care issue are affecting mainline GOOPer voters right along with the rest of us. They aren't happy with their own party, the party that got us into this mess in the first place.

If the Democratic Party plays its cards right and works to get at least 10% of Republican voters to switch sides, the GOP is going to lose very badly. If the wingers piss off enough GOP voters who stay away from the polls, so much the better.

Grayson has the right idea. Call the morons on their idiocy, and do it regularly. Democrats need to stop being quiet. The need to state their case simply, strongly, and endlessly. They need to be on the TeeVee. They need to talk.

The right is on its way to discredit itself completely. We need to take advantage of that.
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denem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 10:00 AM
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18. Good stuff.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 10:04 AM
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20. LONG overdue!
+1
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 10:30 AM
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23. They don't have any leaders
When the PTB decided to sit a dim-witted drunk with a speech impediment in the Oval Office for 8 years, they gave up the idea of leadership. The PTB don't like the limelight, so they line up buffoons to confuse enough voters so that when they steal another election, it still looks like a close one. Pliability to corporate demands and obsequiousness are what they value, not leadership, hence the Republican ranks are filled with toadies who all read off the same sheet of corporate talking points.
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