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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 07:06 PM
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Bill Moyers' Journal tonight......Economic Recovery Illusion?
Edited on Fri Oct-30-09 07:06 PM by marmar
http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/index-flash.html



October 30, 2009

The headlines are trumpeting recovery — some are even proclaiming an end to the recession in the United States (unofficially, that is). The US economy grew in the third quarter for the first time in a year. But there are some caveats — although jobless claims dipped slightly, many analysts still warn of a "jobless recovery." for a number of years to come.

And then there's the small print — will this recovery be permanent or is it a function of the stimulus masking bigger problems? THE WALL STREET JOURNAL warned: "The recovery thus far has been heavily supported by federal money, casting a question mark over the economy's underlying strength as government support dwindles." That unease is echoed by JOURNAL guest James K. Galbraith:
The fact is, the economy — production is going to turn around, has started to recover. But it will be six months in before a strong growth of production leads to new employment. And the question is, will that growth of production continue, after six months? The problem here is that we have a stimulus package, which is helping now, but it will be over with at the end of next year. Will there be a basis for another strong, privately financed expansion at that point? I don't see the evidence for that now. And that seems to me to be something we should be worrying about.

Another Crash, Another Galbraith

The announcement of the possible end to recession came on the anniversary of "Black Tuesday," of the great Wall Street crash of 1929 which ushered in The Great Depression. James K. Galbraith's famous economist father, John Kenneth Galbraith, wrote his classic study THE GREAT CRASH in 1955. The senior Galbraith noted that both the willingness of the American people to get caught up in speculative bubbles and the close ties between big business and politics led to the crash — and might well do so again.

Even in such a time of madness as the late '20s, a great many men in Wall Street remained quite sane. But they also remained very quiet. The sense of responsibility in the financial community for the community as a whole is not small. It is nearly nil. Perhaps this is inherent. In a community where the primary concern is making money, one of the necessary rules is to live and let live. To speak out against madness may be to ruin those who have succumbed to it. So the wise in Wall Street are nearly always silent. The foolish thus have the field to themselves. None rebukes them.
-John Kenneth Galbraith, THE GREAT CRASH: 1929, 1955.

More than 50 years later the younger Galbraith reiterated his father's warning. "That's the point about the crisis, is that it could have been prevented. The people in authority two, three, five years ago, knew how to prevent it. They chose not to act, because they were getting a political and an economic benefit out of the speculative explosion that was occurring."

Additionally, Galbraith voiced similar worries about what might happen in Wall Street and Washington go back to business as usual:

The overwhelming emphasis, in the administration's program, I think, has been to return things to a condition of normalcy, to use a 1920s word, that prevailed five and ten years ago. That is to say, we're back to a world in which Wall Street and the major banks are leading and setting the path... Do you want to have a financial sector dominated by a small number of very large institutions, very difficult to manage, practically impossible to regulate and ruled by, essentially, the same people and the same culture that caused the crisis in the first place.

James K. Galbraith

James K. Galbraith is currently the Lloyd M. Bentsen Chair in government and business relations and professor of economics at the LBJ School of Public Affairs at the University of Texas at Austin. He holds degrees from Harvard (B.A. magna cum laude, 1974) and Yale (Ph.D. in economics, 1981). He studied economics as a Marshall Scholar at King's College, Cambridge in 1974-1975, and then served in several positions on the staff of the U.S. Congress, including as the Executive Director of the Joint Economic Committee. He was a guest scholar at the Brookings Institution in 1985 before joining the faculty at the University of Texas. From 1995 to 1997 he directed the LBJ School's Ph.D. Program in Public Policy. He held a Fulbright Distinguished Visiting Lectureship in China in the summer of 2001 and was named a Carnegie Scholar in 2003. His recent research has focused on the measurement and understanding of inequality in the world economy, and leads an informal research group called the University of Texas Inequality Project with several of the school's distinguished graduate students.


Professor Galbraith has co-authored several books including: BALANCING ACTS: TECHNOLOGY, FINANCE AND THE AMERICAN FUTURE (1989), CREATED UNEQUAL: THE CRISIS IN AMERICAN PAY (1998), INEQUALITY AND INDUSTRIAL CHANGE: A GLOBAL VIEW (Cambridge University Press, 2001), which was co-edited with Maureen Berner and features contributions from six LBJ School Ph.D. students, UNBEARABLE COST: BUSH, GREENSPAN AND THE ECONOMICS OF EMPIRE (2006) and his latest book THE PREDATOR STATE: HOW CONSERVATIVES ABANDONED THE FREE MARKET AND WHY LIBERALS SHOULD TOO (2008).

Professor Galbraith maintains several outside connections, including serving as a senior scholar of the Levy Economics Institute and as chair of the board of Economists for Peace and Security. He writes a column called "Econoclast" for MOTHER JONES, and occasional commentary in many other publications, including The TEXAS OBSERVER, THE AMERICAN PROSPECT, and THE NATION. He is an occasional commentator for Public Radio International's MARKETPLACE.
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ipaint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 07:10 PM
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1. Thanks for the reminder.
It's pretty pathetic to come across a thread with this subject matter with an unrec right off the bat.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 07:39 PM
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5. Republicon Homelanders HATE truth
in any way, shape, or form. What you gonna do?
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 07:30 PM
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2. kick
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Sinti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 07:35 PM
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3. At this moment in time anyone who uses the word "recovery"
is certainly fooling someone, either themselves or you.

The business sector (big business) is referring to this economic collapse as a "reset," not a recession. The language they like to use to refer to the future is "the new normal." The new normal means far fewer jobs in general, more productivity for lower wages, greatly reduced consumer spending over the long term (because they don't intend to hire folk), increasing business in the BRIC (Brazil, Russia, India, China), and looking for more upside in the emerging markets (the new cheap labor). They don't need your labor, and they don't need your market. China has 1 billion+ people to sell stuff to, we don't even have half that.

You can see wages falling right now. I cannot imagine how anyone thinks the current system can turn around and be "good" again. It never was that good before. People should not go hungry, or cold, or homeless because they can't find work - it defies the laws of nature. These things have been happening in this country since the turn of the last century.

I see a future fit for a Dickens novel if people don't realize just how broken the system really is. Unless the Federal Reserve is willing to loan money at negative interest rates, and the banks are willing to loan that money also at negative interest rates there's nowhere to go but down in the current arrangement. Every dollar you touch has to be paid back to the Federal Reserve with interest - where's the money for the interest coming from?

Breaking up the monopolies part of the answer, but if the stock from the newly broken monopolies is in the same hands, what good does that do - it's still owned by the same people. Those stock holders demand ever-increasing profits. So if you (as a company) made $1 million last year, you'd better make $1.2 million this year or your stock price will go down, and then you're liable to face a strike suit.

It's a kind of madness that needs to be cured.

We need some really, really smart economists to devise a new system to facilitate trade and productivity, this one is all used up.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 08:18 PM
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7. +infinity. nt
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 07:36 PM
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4. Kick
Will be watching
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ipaint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 07:57 PM
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6. Don't miss the interview with glenn greenwald at the same link in the op
Edited on Fri Oct-30-09 07:58 PM by ipaint
It's a web only interview and it's excellent. They touch on a variety of subjects.

Here is the direct link

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/blog/2009/10/web_exclusive_glenn_greenwald.html
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 08:29 PM
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8. That was excellent
Glad Bill played the FDR tape with the new bill of rights speech.
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Hestia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 10:29 PM
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9. Obama is being set up with all these "sunny days are here again" stories.
The TPTB and MSM keep up with all these rosy, glowing stories about the economy digging its way up from the quagmire, when millions of people are on unemployment, benefits running out and not a job prospect in sight. They can then blame the Dem's (ala Nixon, Ford and Reagan) that it's the Dem's fault for the entire financial disaster.

We know how they play, and this is just one of them.
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