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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 09:16 PM
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Marcy Wheeler: Bush's July 7, 2003 Discussion About Wilson
Edited on Fri Oct-30-09 09:30 PM by Hissyspit
http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/10/30/bushs-july-7-2003-discussion-about-wilson

Bush’s July 7, 2003 Discussion about Wilson

By: emptywheel
Friday October 30, 2009 5:40 pm

One thing DOJ redacted in this document–the most highly protected part of the document–was Cheney relaying what was said about Joe Wilson at a meeting with Bush, probably on July 7, 2003.

When Fitzgerald asked Cheney whether he ever spoke about Wilson with Condi Rice, Andy Card, and Karl Rove, Cheney answered this way:

The Vice President advised that it was probable that he discussed Joe Wilson at some point with National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice, but he had no recollection of discussing Valerie Wilson at all with her. He advised his thoughts were the same regarding Presidential Chief of Staff Andrew Card–he probably would have discussed Joe Wilson with Card, but not Valerie Wilson. He said the same held true for Presidential Advisor Karl Rove–he probably discussed Joe Wilson with Rove, but would not have discussed Valerie Wilson with him.

The Vice President went on to explain his reason for believing he possibly discussed Joe Wilson with the latter three individuals. The Vice President stated that after he receives his 7:00 a.m. briefing at his residence from the CIA briefer, he travels to the White House where he joins the President for a daily CIA briefing which the President receives from either DCI Tenet or DDCI McLaughlin. Chief of Staff Card and Dr. Rice are also present for these briefings, along with a Presidential briefer from the CIA. Normally, when the CIA’s briefing is completed, the four, who are sometimes joined after the briefing by Mr. Rove, will discuss a wide range of topics. At some point in time, after the Wilson issue had become public, the Vice President recalls (two lines redacted).

The Vice President said he could not recall exactly when he had this discussion and who was present for it, but it may have been at one of the morning meetings. He said that it was possible he had the discussion with the President prior to the publication of Wilson’s editorial on 7/6/03, but it probably occurred afterwards. It may have occurred early on Monday, 7/7/03 although he stated that he would not have discussed it with the President on Sunday, 7/6/03, the day when he returned to Washington from Wyoming. Additionally, the Vice President had no recollection of discussing Wilsons wife at any time with the President.

DOJ has exempted the redaction claiming Presidential Communication.

- snip -

So Cheney and Libby asked Schmall (for at least the third time) about Wilson’s trip. Then Cheney went into a briefing, then meeting, with Bush, Condi, Card, and Rove. And then Rove went into the senior staff meeting talking about how they had to push back against Wilson. Cathie Martin wrote up some talking points reflecting Rove’s comments. And then Libby told Ari Fleischer about Plame’s identity.

It’s just a mere five hours from Cheney and Rove’s conversation with Bush to Libby telling the White House Press Secretary that Plame was a CIA officer.

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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 09:18 PM
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1. Hey, Unrecommender. Kiss my ass.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 09:22 PM
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2. There you go.
Back on the board. :)
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 09:42 PM
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7. LOL
Probably Liz the lizard.

Rec
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 10:21 PM
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10. Oops. I was going to delete that in the interest of civility but the edit period ended a minute ago.
Edited on Fri Oct-30-09 10:23 PM by Hissyspit
Oh, well. :D
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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 09:23 PM
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3. K & R
n/t
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 09:24 PM
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4. knr nt
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 09:30 PM
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5. Thank you, Mr. Spit.
I look forward to reading the testimony, investigation notes, and the analysis of weed-walkers like Marcy this weekend.

:toast:
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 09:36 PM
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6. You might like this:
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 10:02 PM
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9. Awesome. Somewhere, somehow, deep in the weeds, we'll find
why "Gee I don't remember" isn't a foolproof Get Out of Jail Free card.

Have a great weekend, sir.

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ThePantaloon.com Donating Member (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 09:49 PM
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8. Good post, Cheney is a real
dillhole.
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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 07:32 AM
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11. The VP "advised"?
Did he say it or not?
I hate these mealy mouth words. "Advise" is not the same as say; advise indicates suggestion or recommendation.
Here the idea was to investigate and get someone's statement. At least that's how I understood the purpose of his talking to Fitzgerald.
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