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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 01:11 PM
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Orly Taitz responds {badly} to her case's dismissal (Salon)
Edited on Sat Oct-31-09 01:12 PM by eppur_se_muova
The Birther-in-chief isn't happy to see her hopes of unseating President Obama dashed

By Alex Koppelman

Birther attorney Orly Taitz has never responded well to having one of her many cases tossed out of court. Unsurprisingly, she had much the same reaction after a federal judge dismissed the case she brought on behalf of Alan Keyes and many others on Thursday.

From a post -- titled "What doesn't break us, makes us stronger" -- on Taitz's blog, in which she mentions a certain media outlet by name:


Clearly it is not the end of the road. We will continue. I need some time to study this order and provide full answer point by point. I will not give a full analysis of judge Carter’s orders at the moment. Today I was inundated with phone calls from different media outlets ... One interview I remebered. It was with Jessica Rosenthal from FOX radio. She asked me, when will I give up? I asked her in turn: “Jessica, when do you give up on the Constitution of this country? When do you give up on your constitutional rights for redress of grievances, for your right not to be defrauded by the government, not be treated as a slave?”

While I will not address the legal aspects of the order today, I will address a couple of issues relating to me personally, as I can see a concerted effort to assassinate my character similar to what was done to Sarah Palin, when she joined McCain, when within a day McCain-Palin ticket was 12 points ahead of Obama. What did Chicago combine do? They assassinated her character. So I have to address some of those issues, because it appears that the media has named me a leader of this movement. I am the only attorney, who brought legal actions from plaintiffs with real standing. I brought actions from active duty military and state representatives. My opposition see me as a threat. What was done? Some puppets were used to defame me, slander me, write garbage letters to judge Carter .... I hoped that this judge had more integrity of character, I guess I was wrong.

Another point – Judge Carter state in court and in his order that I told people to call him This is not true. Who told it to judge Carter? His new clerk, fresh out of Perkins Coie, law firm, that represented Obama, in some 100 cases? ....

Citizens seem to have no voice, they have no standing to bring any legal actions in face of any fraud. They only have standing to pay taxes and pay for the judges, clerks, congress and senate who never address any issues. They should have no concerns about an inhabitant of the White house sporting 39 social security numbers, some are the social security numbers of the deceased. How long will it take for those citizens to revolt? Washington Post has written that 8 out of 10 Americans know about this issue. According to AOL-it’s 85%. This number is growing. How long will those people be silent? 4,5 million marched on Washington DC on September the 12th. How many will march next time around, when so many loose their jobs (half a million jobs every month officially) and probably double that number unofficially. When they loose their homes at a rate higher then the rate during great depression. When they become numb from hatred against this fraudulent usurper in the White House, corrupt politicians and corrupt judges. Who will stop them? A few snooty remarks on MSM and on the faithful to regime lap dog blogs like Politijab, Salon or Politico? When people loose their voice, when they are livid from the arrogance shown by the ruling elite, they simply revolt
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http://www.salon.com/news/orly_taitz/index.html?story=/politics/war_room/2009/10/30/taitz_responds



Every time you think OT has completely loost it, she looses even more ...




Ironically, as a kid, I never liked clowns. :+
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 01:24 PM
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1. The Fallacy of Overconfidence ( Why the ignorant are blissful )
People who do things badly, Dunning has found in studies conducted with a graduate student, Justin Kruger, are usually supremely confident of their abilities -- more confident, in fact, than people who do things well.

(snip)

One reason that the ignorant also tend to be the blissfully self-assured, the researchers believe, is that the skills required for competence often are the same skills necessary to recognize competence.

"Not only do they reach erroneous conclusions and make unfortunate choices, but their incompetence robs them of the ability to realize it," wrote Kruger, now an assistant professor at the University of Illinois, and Dunning.

http://www.zenspider.com/RWD/Thoughts/Inept.html
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 01:29 PM
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2. 4.5 million huh?
Even the Beckerhead didn't claim that many.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 01:33 PM
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4. Damn! Now that's a world-class lie.
Great work Oily!

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WhoIsNumberNone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 02:11 PM
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7. At this rate they'll be up to 6 million by next year.
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appleannie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 03:43 PM
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13. More like 45. She must have an overblown case of double vision.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 04:09 PM
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16. They've taken anti-choice rhetoric to it's logical extreme
and are now counting sperms and unfertilized eggs as "people".
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 01:30 PM
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3. Oh golly, she writes even worse than she speaks
And repeating the canard about the millions who marched on Washington at the command of the chief Beckerhead? Well, at the risk of ripping off Visa, Priceless.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 01:37 PM
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5. A Certain Mr. Strunk Is Gaining On Her Heels, Sir....
For those with a taste for the heights of low comedy....

http://www.therightsideoflife.com/?cat=283
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 01:58 PM
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6. And can Mr. Wagnall be far behind?
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 02:19 PM
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8. Judging By These Presentments, Sir, Mr. Wagnall is Nowhere In Sight, And That For a Long Time....
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 02:24 PM
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9. "Loosing" for "Losing" One of my pet peeves.
To me, it shows ignorance. That is why I correct every DUer who does it. It seems appropriate when a birther does it. She claims "4,5 million people" marched on Washigton. Hoo boy. Hey nitwit, you assassinated your own character. So did SP.
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safeinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 03:18 PM
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10. I get loost on that one.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 03:28 PM
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12. Don't be rediculous.
:D
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 02:01 PM
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21. Haaa! Made me laugh.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 03:59 PM
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15. Yep.
She's going to continue to lose, because she has a screw loose.
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 02:02 PM
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22. Aw, good one!
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NICO9000 Donating Member (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 03:26 PM
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11. Legal question
Are there any legal eagles on DU? I'm curious to learn how many times she can bring this suit. Doesn't abuse of the court or frivolous filings come into this at some point?


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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 04:24 PM
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17. I think she's always filed in a different location.
But Judge Land mentioned Rule 11 from the Federal Rules of Civil Procedures about attorney conduct in his ruling and forwarded it to the California Bar. I think there is a fairly damning complaint against her before the CA bar.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/frcp/Rule11.htm

http://www.scribd.com/doc/15546236/Taitz-State-Bar-Complaint

And yes, my understanding is that someone can be declared a "vexatious litigant" and only file a case if granted permission. This might appy:

"After a litigation has been finally determined against the person, repeatedly relitigates or attempts to relitigate, in propria persona, either (i) the validity of the determination against the same defendant or defendants as to whom the litigation was finally determined or (ii) the cause of action, claim, controversy, or any of the issues of fact or law, determined or concluded by the final determination against the same defendant or defendants as to whom the litigation was finally determined."

http://www.courtinfo.ca.gov/reference/documents/factsheets/Vexatious_Litigants.pdf
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existentialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 09:52 PM
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18. she already has--that was what the $20,000 fine was for
Judges are reluctant to impose rule 11 sanctions sua sponte, but she has pushed the limit to the limit, and it should be happening more and more now. Also, some of her actions have been referred to the California bar associations. Bar associations tend to move about as slowly as courts, but in due course I do expect that she will be disbarred.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 03:58 PM
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14. 4, 5 million in DC? More like 45 BILLION!
There were invisible aliens from the future that the librul media refused to count!!!

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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 09:55 PM
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19. "j"udge Carter? This woman is scary stupid. As for those 39 Social Security numbers, don't they all
belong to her paralegal?
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 09:58 PM
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20. Poor Orly.. she's so darned unhappy .. I think the time has come, for her
to MOVE... maybe back to Israel, or somewhere else..but she's obviously miserable here..
Perhaps she could start a whole new society somewhere..Orlyopolis or Taitzland, or Orlytaitzia..
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