Leave it to a 2009 model year Democrat .........

[Stinky The Clown]

...... to make the Hyde Amendment appear benign.

This seems to be the way the whole party is ...... going .... trending? ..... being pulled? .... being pushed? ...... being led?

What is it?

[tekisui]

1. The Democratic Party is diseased with conservatism.

[TomClash]

2. The Blue Dogs want to keep their federal health insurance . . .

. . . and they can only do that by keeping their jobs. They keep their jobs by staying out of the target range of the teabagging, Christian Right.

[emulatorloo]

3. It was a dumbass show for the fundies in his district. and for the 30ish blue dogs who voted w him

It is Boehner type posturing, I doubt it will survive and make it into the final bill. It is too preposterous.

My guess is that in conference it will get stripped out on the grounds that it is "redundant" - that will be the strategy of the "adults"

[ThomCat]

6. We have been assured repeatedly for decades that the "adults"

in the party firmly support choice, so we have nothing to worry about. But despite this, those adults keep caving in time after time and abandoned any support for choice because of political expedience. Whatever vote of the moment was always so vital that choice had to be sacrificed yet again. So your optimism is very likely misplaced. :(

[emulatorloo]

12. A Du'er reports that Harkin says it is not going to make it into final bill

If that is true, I know Harkin is going to FIGHT to kill it.

Again, I am calling my Senators to say -- "NO STUPAK TYPE AMENDMENT IN SENATE BILL"

[QC]

4. As the GOP has turned into a mobile nuthouse, its sane (but conservative) members

have poured into the Democratic Party (and Democratic Underground), turning both in a decidedly conservative direction.

[unblock]

5. exactly. republican defeat in 2008 was too obvious. so they made plans.

[ThomCat]

7. And, ConservaDems like Rahm have embraced the idea of turning

our party into the next conservative party. His big strategy for winning has been to throw out the liberal relics and co-opt the republicans. :(

[QC]

8. Yep, that is the strategy.

Then, of course, there is also the fan mentality that we have seen take this site over, the idea that if I think a politician is cool then whatever he does is OK.

Many people here sound like fans debating whether Duran Duran or Haircut 100 is the better band. (My vote would be for the former.)

[ThomCat]

10. The Obamatons and their worship of the saintly image of Obama

are a curse upon our party. :grr:

They are as bad as Republicans with their insistence on
1. loyalty to the leader no matter what. The leader is the party.

2. everything is going amazingly well no matter what is really happening. Rose colored glasses and delusional optimism are mandatory.

3. looking at the real world and critiquing anything makes you a heretic who doesn't belong in THEIR party.

I hope they are a very short-term aberration.

[tekisui]

9. Yep. It is a tragic development. We will be stuck with a conservadem

party and Neo-Con party.

No where for liberal voices to be heard.

[ThomCat]

11. And he is controlling Obama's policy direction and development.

So it is doubly ironic when his cheerleaders declare, without any evidence, that Obama is the most progressive President we have ever had. :(