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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 08:01 AM
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Christian Right group: It's time to put the Constitution aside if we want to protect this country
Edited on Fri Nov-13-09 08:02 AM by ck4829
The American Family Association (AFA) usually frets about homosexuals and pornography, but in the aftermath of the shootings at Fort Hood last week, the ultraconservative religious right group has a new concern: Muslims in the U.S. military. Ban them, urges Bryan Fischer, AFA director of issues analysis.

The day after Army Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, an American-born Muslim, is alleged to have shot and killed 13 people at the Texas army post and wounded more than two dozen others, Fischer posted his anti-Muslim screed on the AFA website.

“It is time, I suggest, to stop the practice of allowing Muslims to serve in the U.S. military,” Fischer wrote. “The reason is simple: the more devout a Muslim is, the more of a threat he is to national security. Devout Muslims, who accept the teachings of the prophet as divinely inspired, believe it is their duty to kill infidels. Yesterday’s massacre is living proof.”

Fischer conceded that most U.S. Muslims don’t shoot their fellow soldiers. No matter, because “the more devout a Muslim is, the more likely he is to lie to you through his teeth,” Fischer writes. “You invent a jihadi-detector that works every time it’s used, and we’ll welcome you back with open arms. This is not Islamophobia. It is Islamo-realism. The barbarians are no longer at the gate. They’re inside the fort, and it’s time for the insanity to stop.”

Mikey Weinstein, founder and president of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation, said that barring Muslims from serving in the U.S. military would violate the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment that ensures equal application of laws among people regardless of their race, faith and the like. “That’s a bigoted, racist, vile position,” Weinstein said of the AFA article. “It’s un-American. It’s inhuman. It violates our Constitution.”

Brigham Young University law professor Cole Durham agrees that barring people of a particular religion from military service would be unconstitutional. Durham, who specializes in international religious freedom law, added that barring Muslims from military service would be foolish even if it were legal given that the U.S. government is trying to convince the world that it is not anti-Muslim. “This is obviously a terrible tragedy,” Durham said of the Fort Hood shootings. “ to hold the entire Muslim community in America hostage to one terrible incident does not respect Islam and the rights of Muslims to be full citizens in this country.”

Even so, Fischer’s Muslim rant isn’t the first time AFA has piped up about a religious minority in the United States. When it learned that a Hindu chaplain from Reno, Nev., would be allowed to deliver the opening prayer in the U.S. Senate in 2007, AFA urged its members to E-mail, write letters and call their senators and object to “seeking the invocation of a non-monotheistic god.”

http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2009/11/12/violate-the-constitution-christian-right-group-says-yes/
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 08:05 AM
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1. So they call themselves the American Family Association and talk about shit like this.
Edited on Fri Nov-13-09 08:13 AM by YOY
What screwed up families belong to this association? Not my American family. Maybe the Dobsons, the Mansons, and the Phelps?
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 08:08 AM
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3. Word.
n/t
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NOW tense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 08:06 AM
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2. Hmmm... And all this time
they claimed they were the persecuted religion.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 08:23 AM
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4. K&R
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 08:24 AM
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5. It's time to dump "christianity" if we want to save this country.
Get your "religious" bullshit out of my nation.


mark
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 08:26 AM
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6. + 10,000
:thumbsup:
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 08:30 AM
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7. +1
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 09:08 AM
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14. +1000
:thumbsup:
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Toasterlad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 09:56 AM
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20. +666
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-14-09 10:54 AM
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26. Yeah!!! Then we wouldn't have had CHRISTO-FASCISTS like Martin Luther King!!!
Screw em all!!1!
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JoDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 08:30 AM
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8. OK, game on
Based on the AFA's logic here, the next time a Christian commits a non-combat act of violence in the military, all Christians should be banned from the military.

Bring it on.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 04:54 PM
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23. Timothy McVeigh and Eric Rudolph were in the military
Edited on Fri Nov-13-09 04:59 PM by AspenRose
Bring it on, indeed!

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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 08:32 AM
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9. Isn't opposition to basic Constitutional rights...
...the very definition of "unamerican?"
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 08:38 AM
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12. Not if you're this guy:

or this guy:

whoops! I meant this guy:
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 08:36 AM
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10. This is spoiled, entitled, undereducated white privilege...
...that reacts to diversity with knee-jerk bigotry.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 08:38 AM
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11. So they want to destroy the country in order to save it.
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StarfarerBill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 11:25 AM
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21. They want to destroy the country...
...in order to save their power and privilege, nothing more.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 04:47 PM
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22. Well, yeah.
Imagine my first post with finger quotes around the word save.
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-14-09 11:04 AM
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27. Hey! It worked in Vietnam!
Oh wait, that's right; no, it didn't...

Oh, and if you see a white, Christian guy with a crew-cut, RUN! He might be another Timothy McVeigh. And if you don't have a white Christian crew-cut guy terrorism detector, how are you gonna know until he blows something up?... :grr::mad::grr::mad:
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 09:05 AM
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13. holy sphincter batman!
wow
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 09:11 AM
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15. Gee, at the rate they're going
with all the people they want to ban from military service, it's going to get to the point that the military will be solely comprised of RRRW Christians, Neo-Nazis and ex-convicts.

But then I'm being redundant there...
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MattBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 09:32 AM
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16. This is the biggest example of projection I have ever witnessed
Devout people are more likely to kill
Devout people are more likely to lie
Devout people invent excuses for their craziness


You really are most likely an expert on the craziness of devout people aren't you Mr. Fischer?
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 09:44 AM
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17. 2 words - one example - Jim Jones
909 dead in Jonestown.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 09:47 AM
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18. Personally, I'd rather ban 'christians' that believe they have a right to impose their beliefs on
everyone else.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 09:49 AM
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19. And why are these people in one of their own private prisons?
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optimator Donating Member (606 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 04:54 PM
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24. its time to treat christians as potential terrorists
they are more of a threat than muslims.
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-14-09 01:57 AM
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25. Ironically, he's right when he says "{the barbarians} are inside the fort" ...
but he'll never get it.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-14-09 11:23 AM
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28. The C street gang also believes that their interpretation of the bible should
be the ultimate authority, not the constitution. They call it "Jesus plus Nothing." What the fuck they doing in Congress if they don't believe our constitution is the law of the land.
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