6% of 307,973,991 USA population = 18,478,439

[SHRED]

So 18,478,439 of our citizens will do without health coverage.

Unacceptable to me.


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[FarLeftFist]

1. 8-10 million are illegal immigrants, the rest are republicans.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Not from actual scientific poll.

[jaysunb]

2. Any idea who these people might be ?

:shrug:

[SHRED]

3. nope

[valerief]

5. Fed govt employees? nt

[tekisui]

7. The poor.

Those who don't qualify for Medicaid. Of course, all of the undocumented aliens as well.

[dysfunctional press]

15. some are young healthy adults who see no reason to purchase it at this time.

i'm not saying that it's a majority or even a large minority of the numbers- just that it's a component.

[DainBramaged]

4. 3% of 307,973,991 = 9,237,219 who are the people who watch FAUX news

and are too stupid to realize medicare is socialized medicine and who will refuse HCR.

[debbierlus]

6. It will be FAR more then that, my friend. If you factor in the number of people...

Who will opt out because they can't afford the premiums or don't want to purchase the sham 'catastrophic coverage'...

Or, the people who only have the sham catastrophic coverage....

Or, the people who have policies that only cover 60% (the allowable percentage for a insurer to split coverage with policy holder) and don't have the means to pay for huge bills from a catastrophe or a chronic illness

Or, the people who have insurance but will be denied care under one of the zillion other reasons insurers use to deny treatment....

That will equal tens of millions.

18,478,439 is unacceptable, indeed. Sadly the number will be exponentially higher.

[leftstreet]

9. +1

[ThomCat]

10. Yes, for all the reasons you listed, it will be much higher.

:(

People who think that all the denials of service from insurance companies will just go away are living a fantasy. Unless there is a method of demanding that they reinstate coverage, and that method is fast enough to get service restored when you need it, and has real teeth to force compliance, insurance companies are going to keep denying service to people who need it most whenever they need it most for any reason they can find or fake.

People who think that everyone who buys insurance will suddenly have affordable access to health care are total fools if they don't realize that most people will only be able to afford catastrophic coverage.

If you have a pre-existing condition (like me) they can't deny you coverage anymore, but they will be able to charge a high cost for that policy, and have high copays and deductables, so that any insurance is effectively catastrophic coverage. We will only be able to afford use it one or twice for the most dire of emergencies and then we will be bankrupt. We will NOT be able to afford to use this insurance on a routine basis to cover existing health issues unless we have wealth in the bank for "our share" of every bill. Even 20% of every medical bill add up to tens of thousands of dollars very quickly. These plans start out at 20% "shared costs" and go up to 60%.

[Amonester]

8. How many homeless people in the US?

4-5-6%?

They don't count, obviouly... :mad:

[krawhitham]

11. Are you people ever happy?

We have been trying for 40 years for health-care and we are closer now than every and everybody just wants to shit all over it

[SHRED]

12. Tell that to the 18.5 million left out

[dmallind]

13. Or the 31 million who will benefit if it passes? NT

[tjwash]

14. Yeah...and right now, there are over 45 million doing without.

From Factcheck.org

The Census Bureau estimates that 45.7 million lacked health insurance at any given time in 2007. But fewer lacked coverage for the full year, and more did without for one or more months during the year. All three numbers are likely to be higher for 2008 due to massive job losses.

I hate this pervasive, juvenile attitude of "fuck it...the current version of the bill doesn't have exactly everything in it that you think it should have in it, so toss the entire thing in the shitter."

It's like stamping your feet and holding your breath until you turn blue.

[WI_DEM]

16. I don't think you have to worry. The GOP and conservative dems will defeat it and nothing will be

done on health care. No reforms, no additional coverage for anybody. It will just be business as usual. Then in 2010 the GOP base will turnout while the Dem base stays home twiddling there thumbs and we will have a GOP congress.

[kixat2550]

17. That's appaling