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lildreamer316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 01:24 PM Original message |
Guess what?New study says that Americans are tops in charitable giving.(LARGE graphic) |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
1. There are considerably more religious people in the US than secular.. |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 01:58 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. But it's a percentage, so population size irrelevant |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 02:02 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. I'd have to know a lot more about how the survey was conducted |
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lostnfound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-12-09 01:12 AM Response to Reply #2 |
34. Donations to churches can be similar to club dues, not always real charity |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-12-09 10:09 AM Response to Reply #34 |
35. True - but look at secular only giving, NT |
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SIMPLYB1980 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 02:06 PM Response to Original message |
4. USA! USA! USA! |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 02:06 PM Response to Original message |
5. Conservatives give to their churches. |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 02:46 PM Response to Reply #5 |
21. How many billions is Pat Robertson worth? |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 03:23 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. less than 1, otherwise he'd be in the Fortune 400 |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 03:06 PM Response to Reply #5 |
22. another thing is that foundations like Heritage and Cato |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 02:09 PM Response to Original message |
6. They seem to be counting donations to churches as charity giving, which is highly debatable. -nt |
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progressoid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 02:22 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. No shit. Since when are churches a charity? |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 02:10 PM Response to Original message |
7. I understood it all except the part about Lutherans. Can someone tell |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 02:35 PM Response to Reply #7 |
15. It's a basic charitable organization set up by the synods |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 02:12 PM Response to Original message |
8. k/r. Really interesting stuff. nt |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 02:19 PM Response to Original message |
9. Europeans have less of a need for charity |
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progressoid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 02:25 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. And Europeans are less religious so give a LOT less to religious organizations |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 02:32 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Some churches do good work |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 02:36 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. There were secular abolitionists. The women's rights movements had major overlap with both too. NT |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 02:41 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Lincoln was probably a secular abolitionist |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 05:04 PM Response to Reply #19 |
28. I'm not sure Lincoln, ironically, was much of an abolitionist |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 08:37 PM Response to Reply #9 |
31. +1. It also means that, for the most part the European poor.... |
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newtothegame (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
12. Makes conservatives look good and us bad. Must be a lie. Alerted. n/t |
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lildreamer316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 08:24 PM Response to Reply #12 |
29. ..and welcome to my ignore list. I did not make the graphic,Been here years& never been alerted on. |
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jsamuel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 02:29 PM Response to Original message |
13. thats because donations are tax deductible and the biggest beneficiary are churches |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 02:41 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. Exactly this study would have a lot more meaning if church donations |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 02:37 PM Response to Original message |
17. There is nothing good about America, why post anything that may even suggest there is? |
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NightWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 02:42 PM Response to Original message |
20. We Care A Lot |
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diane in sf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 04:24 PM Response to Original message |
24. The others are socialized, they don't have to donate to charity so that others' basic needs |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 04:37 PM Response to Original message |
25. how does that translate/compare as a percentage of gnp with those other nations...? |
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Igel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 10:44 PM Response to Reply #25 |
32. Your stats aren't actually relevant. |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-12-09 12:09 AM Response to Reply #32 |
33. it as the only one i could find quickly at the time- |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 04:46 PM Response to Original message |
26. Given America's meager safety net- that this would surprise anyone is beyond me |
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varelse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 08:29 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. Good point |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 04:51 PM Response to Original message |
27. Do charities that promote right-wing evangelical domination and Blackwater thugs count? You bet. |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-12-09 10:12 AM Response to Original message |
36. I'll take Churches for $1000, Alex...nt |
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